Sorry, thought I sent this out to the list already.


Hello Mike, Andrew and others,
Here is the info on the 6dot Braille Label Maker.
LoganTech--6dot Braille Label Maker
$749.00 plus shipping.
327 Huntingdon Avenue
Waterbury, CT 06708
(T) (203) 721-6074
www.logantech.com

Yes, $749 is expensive, but with the time I have spent Brailling labels on my Perkins, cutting the finished label to the right size, and having to often go back over the letters and numbers and pound them out again to get the desired crisp Braille I want, oh not to mentioned finding the right plastic material to make the labels (not to thick, not to thin, something that will stick until I want to remove it, and material that does not crumble or break into little pieces if I need to remove and replace). For all these frustrations, I found I waited until I had a bunch of items to label before I would commit the time. 
What I love about the 6Dot Braille labeler is that it is always ready, I just flip the switch on and make my new label in seconds, and the Braille comes out crisp with the cut at the end that makes it easy to peel. I can't believe how easy it is to use. The price is right up there with a Perkins Brailler, but I do not regret my purchase. I even made a Braille label for our City recycle ben so I know which is which since they are identical other than color.
If anyone wants to call with any questions, my cell is 480-231-9557 Best, Terri




-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew J. LaPointe [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 1:39 AM
To: Terri Hedgpeth <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] braille embossed on all grocery items? Larry thinks so!!!!

    Hi Terri, I heard of the 6 dot braille device.  The only thing that stopped me to get one was the price....Can you remind me what that price is? 
Does it seem sturdy?  Thank you for reading this.  Andy and Shubert p.s. Do you have the number for this device?

-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Hedgpeth
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] braille embossed on all grocery items? Larry thinks so!!!!

Well, I am with Ana on this topic. And though it is stinging expensive for just producing Braille labels, I finally broke down and bought the Logan Tech 6Dot labeler. I absolutely love this thing. I can make labels extremely quickly using whatever short-hand and/or grade two Braille. All I do is flip the switch on and start typing/Brailling. I to love the convenience of Braille labels on credit cards, books, DVDs, spices, box mixes, canisters, salad dressings, and so so many more items. I like the instant knowing with just a touch of my fingers what something is or contains. I have an older ID Mate, and a Pen Friend, but just don't grab either to identify items. I just want to know which jar is the Roasted Garlic dressing. I don't want to add bar codes labels, or use a device that may or may not need charging or updating before I can locate a can of Kidney Beans. In fact, I'll probably sell my ID Mate Summit and PenFriend. For detailed info on any item, I go to my smart phone or PC and search Google or Directions For Me.
For me as a long time Braille user, Braille just seems to make everything easier.
Just my personal opinion here and my personal preference for accessing item info at home and work.
Best,
Terri


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From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ana G
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] braille embossed on all grocery items? Larry thinks so!!!!

I don't understand why the U.S. doesn't already have braille labels. I believe products sold in the U.K. have basic labels in uncontracted braille, so the technology is available, and American companies are already doing it.


I suspect that part of the reason people don't learn braille is that they don't feel they have any reason to. I'm an English teacher. When I ask my students about the last thing they read, they mention textbooks and news articles. They forget about text messages, product labels, packaging instructions, etc. People who are newly blind probably think the same way and figure they don't want to put any energy into learning braille since they don't plan to read _War and Peace_. Having braille on product packages, even if it's as basic as a name (e.g., Campbell's vegetable soup) would give them a reason to want to learn braille and make the lives of people on this list so much easier.


I'm not sure that electronic solutions are the way to go. We can already use bar codes to get lots of product info, and we have solutions like the PenFriend with easy-to-make QR and NFC labels, but most of us don't use so on a regular basis. At least I don't because my own braille labels are so much quicker and easier to read (though not to make).


On 8/23/2017 2:07 PM, Mike Pietruk wrote:
> Harry
>
> As the vast majority of blind people don't read Braille (70% and 
> higher, it would make little practical or commercial doing this.
> Probably what would work better, and this should be totally voluntary, 
> would be some sort of digital coding that a device could read and 
> communicate the info to the blind person.
> That would be a far more viable approach both in delivering the 
> information as well as reaching a far larger portion of the blind 
> audience.
> And, I suspect that with existing technology, this might be 
> accomplished quite easily with most of the development done on the 
> user end with a bit of co-operation on the manufacturing and packaging 
> side.
> Conveying the info in bgraille really these days isn't the road to go.
>
>
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