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goshawk on horseback <[log in to unmask]>
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then say it to the actual petition starter, rather than picking on me!

Simon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Long" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 2:00 AM
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] calling any window-eyes users, or interested parties!


>I agree with David 100%
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 9:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] calling any window-eyes users, or interested 
> parties!
>
> I personally don't have a problem signing a petition asking Vispero to
> revive Window-Eyes. However, I won't sign this particular petition for
> several reasons, not the least of which is that I don't think it's
> professionally written, its stated reason  for why Window-Eyes was
> discontinued is just speculation without evidence being presented and it
> doesn't make a convincing case for why the software should be revived. It
> falsely accuses the very company being petitioned of being a monopoly, a
> statement  which can easily be disproven. It insults Vispero rather than
> using respectful language. It contains poor grammar and the argument for
> honoring someone who many people, myself included, have never heard of 
> just
> makes no sense and is completely irrelevant from the purpose of the
> petition. This petition will do absolutely nothing for Window-Eyes or its
> users and it actually could hurt the cause. This assumes there's even any
> hope of Vispero even considering the revival of Window-Eyes and this is 
> not
> at all likely. This petition should not be promoted and should be
> immediately withdrawn and rewritten.
>
>
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>
> NVDA Certified Expert
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Dennis Long
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:42 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] calling any window-eyes users, or interested 
> parties!
>
> Mike I agree.  I suggested improving Jaws with things that WE did well. 
> His
> response "go to hell"  I've forwarded it to the admins.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2023 9:39 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] calling any window-eyes users, or interested 
> parties!
>
> Simon
>
> Why in the world would Vispero even consider resurrecting Window-Eyes a 
> this
> point given that they have a very successful product in JAWS?
> While the petition is harmless; I'd view it as a waste of time at this
> point.
> Freedom Scientific would, in effect, be competing against itself and tying
> up additional resources.
> Freedom Scientific took good care of us WE users providing a free JAWS 
> with
> 2 SMA's to boot.
> While I was sorry that WE wuld no longer be updated, I have commend 
> Vispero
> in how they treated us WE customers.
>
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