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Those who follow my blog posts and messages on other mailing lists will 

probably know that I use Kaspersky Antivirus as my security software of 

choice. While I realize that the program's level of accessibility could 

certainly be improved, it was and, for me, still is accessible enough to 

the point where I can perform the tasks which I need to perform. You can 

read my review of the product, from the perspective of an NVDA user, at



https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/



When I first began hearing of Kaspersky's unwillingness to not only 

commit to accessibility but that they had practically admitted that they 

had no such commitment I was incredulous. I had hoped that this was just 

an assumption on the part of one user. However, a couple of users on 

another mailing list have publicly provided additional details and I 

have always found their posts to be fair, accurate and well-written. In 

addition, one of those users received a tweet from Kaspersky, where they 

pretty much confirmed that accessibility was not a high priority for them.



To that end, I tweeted the following message to @kl_support, Kaspersky's 

support account.



@kl_support I'm hearing rumors that Kaspersky is not committing to 

accessibility in 2018 in your products. Is this true?

from DavidGoldfield | Apr 01 7:14 pm | via Easy Chirp

I soon received the following reply from KL_support.



@DavidGoldfield Most likely you're right. Let us specify it from our 

developers team. We hope to implement it in later versions or patches.

from kl_support | Apr 02 3:50 am | Responding | via Freshdesk





There are some conclusions I can make as to the problems we're facing, 

along with several solutions which I will be aggressively pursuing.



First, let's talk about the actual problems. The person or persons 

responding at the kl_support Twitter account are not engineers, 

developers or designers. They likely don't understand what accessibility 

actually means and therefore don't grasp the ramifications as to the 

consequences of a program being inaccessible to screen readers. This 

person or group of persons likely does not understand that the lack of 

accessibility means that a group of computer users will be locked out 

from performing functions which are absolutely essential to maintaining 

the security of their computers. Let's also not forget that this group 

of users are customers who actually paid for the product. At least one 

customer who recently purchased their security suite is now pursuing a 

refund, due to the decline in the product's accessibility, something 

which is regrettable but which is perfectly reasonable. This customer 

will most likely get the refund which is being sought, which no company 

wants.



The first step among many that I plan to take is to send a more detailed 

message to @kl_support, attempting to explain how blind people access 

computers with screen readers and how the lack of accessibility in some 

Kaspersky products has a negative impact on their overall experience. In 

addition to having a negative impact on users, I will also explain how 

this lack of accessibility can have a negative impact on the company's 

business, since customers will be unwilling to pay for a program they 

cannot actually use. I will also point out that at least one customer, 

who recently purchased one of their suites, is now pursuing a refund. 

This explanation will need to be done in a manner that is very clear and 

to the point as I also believe that some of the individuals responding 

via @kl_support do not speak English as their primary language and so I 

will need to take this into consideration when crafting a response.



My prediction is that this first step will yield very little in the way 

of positive results. My next step will be to compose a more detailed 

response to Kaspersky regarding the lack of accessibility in the form of 

an open letter, which I plan to distribute via a variety of channels. 

This open letter will provide all of the details and documentation I can 

provide regarding the problems we are having with Kaspersky, our tweets 

and messages to them along with any responses we have received from 

them. This open letter, first and foremost, will be posted to my blog. 

In addition, I plan to ensure that I have a link to this post on 

Twitter, my main LinkedIn feed, appropriate LinkedIn groups, relevant 

Facebook groups and other tech-related mailing lists. While I only have 

248 followers on Twitter, I have over 3100 connections on LinkedIn and, 

before I submit this post, I will attempt to connect to people who are 

higher up in the chain at Kaspersky. Additionally, I will submit this 

open letter to at least one of the two consumer advocacy organizations 

such as ACB or NFB and request their assistance. I'm also considering 

contacting a high-profile podcaster such as Jonathan Mosen to see if he 

might be willing to cover this story on his Blind Side podcast. Years 

ago, I would have enjoyed being a guest on anybody's podcast to talk 

about anything. Those days are long gone and I no longer crave any such 

attention or publicity and I no longer enjoy public speaking but 

desperate times sometimes call for desperate measures.



To that end, I am requesting the following assistance. If people are 

experiencing problems with a Kaspersky product, I would ask that you 

kindly send me documentation with as many details about the problem as 

you can provide. Which Kaspersky product (Kaspersky Antivirus 2016, 

Kaspersky Internet Security 2017, etc.), which version of the product is 

currently installed? Which screen reader and what version? What specific 

issues do you have? Please be as specific as you can. Please also 

specify as to whether I may mention your name or do you wish to be 

referred to as "one user reports that ..."



If you have copies of any relevant correspondence with Kaspersky 

regarding these issues and if you are comfortable in having these emails 

or tweets published in this open letter, please provide this to me as 

well. If you would like the correspondence to be published but if you 

would like your name omitted from the open letter, please specify this 

as well and I can substitute your name or Twitter handle with dashes, 

such as @-----.



If any of you are pursuing a refund with Kaspersky due to these issues 

and are now wondering if you should continue to do so or just wait for a 

possible resolution, my prediction is that, while we will win this 

battle, we will not do so quickly. When all has been said and done, I 

believe that Kaspersky will make accessibility in their products a 

higher priority. However, this will take time and you are therefore 

totally justified if you would like to continue pursuing a refund and 

begin using an alternative product. In order to ensure that this open 

letter is properly documented, this will take hours of work on my part. 

I work full-time during the week and so weekends are the only block of 

time which I have to devote to this issue, along with performing 

essential household chores, spending quality time with my family and 

just having some much-needed downtime. Additionally, the weekend of 

April 14-16 is the weekend of Good Friday, Holy Saturday and Easter 

where I engage in very little online activity. Therefore, it is 

reasonable to assume that I may not complete this document until the end 

of April but I can promise you that it will be completed.



You are free to leave any messages regarding this topic on the av-a11y 

mailing list, which I established to discuss the topic of antivirus and 

antimalware accessibility with screen readers. You can subscribe to this 

list by sending an email to



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in the subject type the word



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I would prefer that any responses which you would like to provide be 

left publicly, either on this list or on the av-a11y list. However, if 

you feel that you must respond privately, you are free to do so but 

please understand that I will likely not have the time to respond to you 

quickly.







Thank you for your support and for your patience as we slowly move 

forward to make the Kaspersky products more accessible for everyone, 

including screen reader users!







-- 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my 

Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info





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