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Good Evening,


Thanks to everyone who posted on this issue.  Also, thank you to the 
person who started this thread.  Now, I have a question or two.


First, if you don't upgrade by tomorrow night, how will MS know that 
your computer contains adaptive technology and won't charge your for the 
upgrade?  Second, how will you know if you are needing to update drivers 
and other things mentioned in this thread.  By the way, I use NVDA and 
have a starter copy of Office 2010 (long since expired).


Pauline



On 7/28/2016 7:50 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> Freedom Scientific has offered JAWS Home on sale for $75 at the summer 
> conventions the last two years. Here's one reference to this deal 
> http://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=13026
>
> My brother's employer also told him of a similar deal.
>
> On 28/07/16 13:30, Harry Brown wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Jaws hasn't come down in price, absolutely not.
>> Harry
>>
>> On 7/28/2016 7:43 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>> If you're going to choose a computer based strictly on economics then
>>> don't forget to include all of the costs. An Apple box will cost more
>>> than a comparably tricked out PC. With free options like NVDA and
>>> Linux, and the fact that JAWS for personal use has come down so much
>>> in price, it may not be any cheaper going with an Apple device even
>>> when you take into account the cost of any access technology you need
>>> to purchase on the PC. I'm not saying people shouldn't go with an
>>> Apple system, I'm just saying do your research and do the math before
>>> you just assume that's the cheaper route.
>>>
>>> On 27/07/16 19:38, David Chittenden wrote:
>>>> The learning curve is always daunting. However, the world is always
>>>> changing. This is just how life is, no matter how one personally
>>>> feels about it.
>>>>
>>>> As for the upgrade costs for screen readers, this is why I changed to
>>>> the Mac in 2011. I decided I did not want to pay the Assistive
>>>> Technology upgrade costs in addition to the computer upgrade costs.
>>>> And yes, learning a completely new screen reader and operating
>>>> system, at the same time, was very frustrating. I am happy I did so
>>>> as I no longer must pay the AT upgrade costs. VoiceOver is updated
>>>> every time Mac OS is updated.
>>>>
>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On 28 Jul 2016, at 10:50, Bill Pasco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All that has been said is true, but is incomplete.
>>>>>
>>>>> One reason some are hesitant to update is they have older JAWS
>>>>> versions. To bring JAWS up to the newest is expensive and
>>>>> prohibitive for some folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I know NVDA can be used, but that is a learning curve if you
>>>>> have not used it in the past.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are right and one cannot still use Office 10, then the
>>>>> expense to upgrade is again prohibitive fore some. I need to check
>>>>> on that one, not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not everyone is a geek like those of us on this list. The learning
>>>>> and upgrading and driver fixes etc. are daunting for some people who
>>>>> only know how to turn the computer on, and read email. There are
>>>>> more of those folks than you think.
>>>>>
>>>>> If one uses Windows 8.1 updating should not be too bad as 10 looks
>>>>> similar. From 7 though is a bit more of a change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, some people are saying "what I have works, so why make life
>>>>> difficult?" This is not a long term solution, but if you have an
>>>>> aging laptop, you'll probably replace it before support for Windows
>>>>> 7 or 8.1 expires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
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