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Donna Bell <[log in to unmask]>
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Hey everyone,
I understand the transition issues.   I'm in the process  of making
some transitions, and for  some reason I  am still not completely sure
what God wants me to do.
It's nice to hear that other people are in a similar situation.
Blessings to everyone.
Donna

On 1/19/15, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Vicki,
>
> Transfer events are always difficult and down right awkward.  It is a
> perfectly generated time of ones life for the Enemy to attempt a foothold.
> I had to start early, when I was 56 and started losing the feeling in my
> hands and all those other horrible painful symptoms I had.  I realized I
> could not hold down a job and I didn't consider myself old enough to retire.
>  It still bothers me till this day and even more so now that I'm going to be
> 63 next month.  Sandy has experienced this, too, of course, since the down
> sizing at the hospital that cut her short by a minimum of one year.  So,
> I'll see what comes up about adding to this theme.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Vicki
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 11:58 PM
>   Subject: Re: Crumbs Can Make A Whole Loaf
>
>
>   Thank you Phil. I needed this especially given my current circumstance,
> meaning in transition.. Transition is not necessarily bad. I just don't
> always do well when in that state.  You've reminded me that the Lord has oh
> so much more but in some areas, I'm being satisfied with crumbs because of
> my prayer requests.
>
>   Maybe you could write chapter two on this. (smiles)
>
>   Vicki
>
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Phil Scovell
>     To: [log in to unmask]
>     Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:43 PM
>     Subject: Crumbs Can Make A Whole Loaf
>
>
>          Recently I lost a personal friend.  It was not due to death,
>     or because of relocation, but because of pride, anger, and
>     bitterness on behalf of my friend.  There were some minor
>     Scriptural differences, I guess you would call them minor, but I
>     don't mind those types of things unless they become doctrinal and
>     we had no doctrinal differences.
>
>          The Lord revealed something to me one day about this man and
>     why his life was going the way it was and why our friendship is
>     severed for now.  As usual, I always take personal prophecies,
>     relating to others, personally.  That is, I apply them to myself
>     as much as I do the person of whom the Lord is talking.   One
>     misconception of New Testament prophets is that they just hear
>     from the Lord about an individual and then they are required to
>     talk to that person.  this is untrue.  Rarely does the Lord give
>     me permission to talk to an individual about their life and what
>     the Lord is showing me about them.  Let me use an example before I
>     tell you what the Lord revealed to me about my friend.
>
>          A few years ago, a friend of mine, and his teenage son, tried
>     hiking to a mountain peak not far from Denver.  They went late in
>     the fall, something not wise to do, and they did not dress for
>     winter because it was such a nice day.  The walk up the long trail
>     took longer than they anticipated and on the way back, it began to
>     snow.  Once the winter weather moved in, they quickly became cold
>     and decided to leave the path and cut across a valley which they
>     thought would save them time and lead them to a more direct path
>     to the place they had parked their car.  They became hopelessly
>     lost.  They began to wonder around in knee deep snow, hoping they
>     would recut their original trail, but soon realize they were
>     becoming even more lost.  Additionally, the weather deteriorated.
>
>          finally my friend told his son that they best hunker down and
>     make the best of the night and pray that the storm did not get
>     any worse.  They dug out a place in the snow to try and keep their
>     feet dry and where they could squat down and try their best to
>     stay out of the wind.  Fortunately, during the night, the storm
>     stopped and the wind died down but it was bitterly cold.
>
>          When morning finally came, they discovered, even in broad
>     daylight, they were still lost.  It took them a considerable time
>     to locate the road they had used when coming to the foot of the
>     mountain trail.  By this time, his wife had alerted the
>     authorities and they had sent someone up to try and find them.
>
>          My friend spent about three weeks in the hospital because his
>     feet were severely frostbitten.  He spend several sessions in a
>     hyperbaric chamber to save his feet.  His son, who was about 18
>     years old at the time, was only in the hospital briefly and
>     suffered little effect from the cold.  My friend still has some
>     discomfort in his feet today but otherwise he is well.
>
>          During his stay in the hospital, I called him several times.
>     We had not seen each other for probably two or three years
>     because his wife does not like me.  I used to be her pastor and
>     spent many hours counseling with her and once, years later, had to
>     kick her out of my home because she was trying to disrupt the
>     bible study.  she was notorious for this sort of behavior and has
>     literally disrupted church services by standing up and attempting
>     to take over the service as the pastor taught.  Yes, she has some
>     deep seeded spiritual problems and some of it involves demonic
>     activity but that's a different story.
>
>          during my friend's stay in the hospital, his wife left him.
>     this, too, is also another one of her routine manipulating tricks.
>     In this case, her husband was getting all the attention and not
>     her.  so she moved out; leaving my friend all alone in the
>     hospital and he had no insurance.  To say the least, he was
>     horribly discouraged but you don't have to be a prophet to figure
>     that one out.
>
>          One day, as we were talking, and we were having some very
>     good and very deep spiritual talks as he lay in his hospital bed,
>     the Lord told me that my friend would not be harmed by this
>     experience.  The Lord, furthermore, told me to tell my friend
>     exactly what I had just heard.  My friend knows me well enough to
>     know that, even though I hear something from the Lord, I don't
>     always speak it unless the Lord gives me permission.  I told my
>     friend I had no idea if the Lord was speaking physically or
>     spiritually.  Personally, I thought it was both.  As I said, his
>     feet are ok now but he still has some discomfort do to the
>     frostbite.
>
>          this experience just described has happened to me dozens and
>     dozens of times over the years.  I would guess, probably one out
>     of every fifty times, the Lord tells me to talk to the person.
>     So, as you can see, it isn't often.  What do I do the rest of the
>     time?  I pray about what god has revealed about that person in a
>     more focused way than I would be able to otherwise.  Now back to
>     my original story.
>
>          As I said, I recently lost a friend.  I have been trying to
>     help this friend for some time in his church but he has become
>     very angry, very bitter, and pride, though he doesn't recognize
>     it, has blocked his ability to bless his church.  No, I have not
>     told him all of this and in fact have told him very little.  Why?
>     Because he is not ready to receive it and in fact, what I know, if
>     all were told to him personally, would probably make him worse.
>     It is killing his church and it will kill him as well eventually.
>     As a prophet, I have learned, speaking to someone before the Lord
>     gives permission, can be dangerous and destructive to that
>     person.  In this case, I spoke with the man enough to discern his
>     response and it was fiercely rebuffed.
>
>          A few days ago, out of spiritual frustration, I simply asked
>     the Lord why my friend was acting this way.  Instantly, the Holy
>     Spirit answered my question.  He told me that this man was only
>     asking the Lord for crumbs and so he was only getting crumbs.  The
>     implication, therefore, is spiritually enormous and personally
>     applicable.
>
>          The moment the Holy spirit spoke, my mind flashed to the
>     story of the Syrophenician woman: (See Matthew 15:22-28 and Mark
>     7:25-30).  This woman, who was a Greek, tried to get Jesus to heal
>     her daughter who was possessed by a demon.  Jesus was ministering
>     to Israel at this point of his ministry and said so.  She
>     apparently wasn't willing to give up and must have been
>     continually bombarding our Lord's disciples because they came to
>     the Lord and asked Him to get rid of her.
>
>          The passage in Matthew's Gospel is quite interesting because
>     it says the woman came and worshiped our Lord.  Look it up for
>     yourself.  It means to kiss or to lick the skin as a dog licks his
>     master's hand.  Here, in this part of the story, we are talking
>     about sincerity, at the least, and spiritual intimacy at the most.
>     I would suggest the woman came and threw herself at our lord's
>     feet and began kissing Him and begging for her daughter's life.
>     When Jesus said to her that it wasn't right to give the bread of
>     the children to others, she agreed but insisted that even the dogs
>     eat the crumbs the children drop.  Jesus granted her request and
>     her daughter was healed from that very hour.
>
>          My recent experience with my friend greatly convicted me when
>     the Lord showed all this to me.  I, too, have been guilty of
>     asking God only for crumbs.  Then when I get nothing but crumbs, I
>     complain it isn't enough.  Each of us are guilty, in our own way,
>     of expecting the very least God can do and that is what we are
>     getting; the least He can do.  He is willing to do His best, His
>     biggest, and His most if we will submit to Him by asking and
>     believe.
>
>          Have you given place to the devil by asking for crumbs when
>     god can do so much more for you?  Repent, and begin asking for all
>     He has planned for your life.  Ignore the accusatory clamor, the
>     inflammatory rejection, the judgmental comments, and the
>     spiritual threats which are coming against you.  Kiss the Lord
>     with your prayers until freedom comes.  do not allow the devil to
>     possess your inheritance.  Cast Him out by expecting Jesus to give
>     you His best.  If He did give His all on the cross, why would He
>     not do so now?  Question the devil's ability to move against you
>     by acknowledging God and His Word.
>
>
>     Phil.
>     Living His Name
>     WWW.SafePlaceFellowship.COM

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