Hi Jim, Eric, et al!

I get the feeling very few want to hear from us, and many who say they do
are confusing acknowledgement as a measure of success.

Our local council got a group together to talk about transport. They
believed the job was done when they could say all the bus stops are
identified points on Google maps. 

Our taxi company now prefers we book with their ap, which only locates
addresses on a map image, meaning the ap is not accessible with Voiceover.
Using the phone is now the new sin. *hi hi.

You might ask how I clarify that last statement? Well, now when I get the
notification about the approaching cab I ordered, the message says please do
not reply, but use our new ap.

They love to hate Uber, but they fail to see the one thing Uber seems to
have done right, providing an accessible ap even though they haven't
expanded their opportunities into my area, so far, anyway.  


73,
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
Sent: Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:15 a.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

Eric, getting all our blind friends to become hams wouldn't do it either. 
For example, look at all the products that are not accessible, for example,
the Keurig 2.0 coffee brewers.  Are there even any accessible new Sirius/XM
radios?
--
Jim, ke5al
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

actually, there is a way.
method 1: use a concurrent table that contains columns for station ID, =
LAT, LONG, DIrection of travel, Velocity, etc.

method 2 might involve using an app like apple maps (on their iPhone) =
which can tell the location of a pointer on the map (used in turn by = turn
navigation).

Honestly, I think the first method is easier to achieve.

The problem with map description is that it needs a lot of information = not
easily presentable and also needs a large amount of bandwidth for =
retrieval of location specifics in real time.

I have noticed this issue about a lot of the digital mode software for = ham
radio. almost none of it is properly accessible for the blind = (especially
dm88 in HRD). getting anyone to acknowledge that we (as a = community of
hams) even exists is starting to become a full time job = (and sometimes
even major frustration as I get the impression that they = don't want to
hear from us).

perhaps what we need to do is to find every blind person we can and =
encourage them to become hams. The larger our population in a specific =
population market, the more we get listened to. Its simple, direct and =
easy to do.

DE n7zzt Eric

On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:05 PM, John Miller wrote:

> I've experimented with APRS and I don't see a way, It shows actual =
maps on=20
> the screen with people pinpointed on them, nothing is described that I 
> =
can=20
> tell except maybe longitude and latitude and I'm not even totally sure 
> =
about=20
> that for sure. I don't see it being able to be accessible in it's =
current=20
> state and not sure there's really any way they could make it =
accessible.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Matthew Chao
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Accessibility of APRS?
>=20
> Hi, Folks.  I have a Kenwood TMV710A which has APRS.  Is there any  
>way to make APRS accessible?  Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.=20


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