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I wish you the best of luck with such a limiting attitude.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 5/01/2017, at 10:56, Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> HI Jim,
> BRAVO, I'm with ya.
> I know I might be in the minority, but I march to my own drum, so I don't care.
> I will not use touch screens, and air jestures, and I don't care if I have to go without a computer.
> The world doesn't run me, I run me.
> So, Jim, thank you for your awesome comments.
> Harry
> 
>> On 1/5/2017 11:12 AM, Jim Hamilton wrote:
>> Keith:
>> 
>> Three cheers!!!
>> 
>> If anything is going to change regarding the accessibility of EDGE, the same
>> kind of concentrated effort, by all those who forced Microsoft to continue
>> supporting Windows XP for much longer than it had planned, may be necessary.
>> As it stands now, Microsoft will continue supporting IE 11 until some time in
>> 2020.  We should mount a concentrated campaign/effort to force Microsoft to
>> support IE 11 until EDGE is fully accessible with all meanstream screen
>> readers.  And we should do this before Microsoft goes farther down this road!
>> 
>> "Power to the people!"
>> 
>> Jim H
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keith Bundy
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 9:52 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] JAWS and Microsoft Edge
>> 
>> I admit two things at the beginning of this post. First, I have done limited
>> research on Microsoft Narrator, though I believe I have given it a fair look.
>> Second, some of what I am about to say may be related to my age - I just
>> passed a milestone birthday.
>> 
>> I am concerned about Microsoft working hard to make Narrator competitive. I
>> think competition is a great idea and will benefit all of us in the future.
>> And a built-in screen reader is a fantastic idea!
>> 
>> However, the operation of Narrator seems to be vastly different from the
>> operation of other Windows screen readers out on the market. While this is
>> fine for individuals just learning how to work with a screen reader, I get
>> concerned for those of us who have been using such technology for ten fifteen,
>> twenty or more years.
>> 
>> First, how many programs will we be excluded from if we don't transition to
>> Narrator? For example, I hear that Narrator works fine with Edge right now,
>> but a user of JAWS or NVDA will have difficulty. Is this the trend of the
>> future? Will we be excluded if we don't learn Microsoft's proprietary screen
>> reader?
>> 
>> Second, is Microsoft working on any type of training or documentation that
>> will assist those of us who have certain ways of using the computer integrated
>> into our brains in learning the smooth operation of Narrator? Now before
>> anyone calls me a Luddite, please know that I have continually accepted new
>> technologies for the last twenty years and don't plan to stop doing so - yes,
>> I will learn Narrator. . But not all screen reader users wish to learn new
>> methods of operating a computer and navigating the screen. Will these folks
>> just be left behind like yesterday's dust?
>> 
>> I welcome any and all discussion on this topic. If my concerns are invalid,
>> please let me know. But I think what I am saying expresses the concerns of
>> many users of screen readers.
>> 
>> Thanks for reading this and for the opportunity of expressing concerns like
>> this. Have a great day!
>> 
>> 
>> Keith Bundy
>> Digital Accessibility Consultant and Trainer
>> 
>> Siteimprove, Inc.
>> 7807 Creekridge Circle
>> Minneapolis, MN 55439
>> Tel: 612-259-6350
>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>> 
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