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David, thanks for doing your testing with Window-Eyes.  Didn't you say 
you used Seamonkey for e-mail? Do you have these same issues with 
Seamonkey? I know it's a different program entirely, but it's also made 
by Mozilla, so I'm just curious.


Christopher, I just checked, and I'm sending messages in plain text. I'm 
thinking the problems some of us are having are related to the screen 
readers we're using.


Are any of you using Thunderbird with Braille?  I'm also having a 
problem reading my Reply messages with Braille. I can only read one line 
of text at a time with my display; and if I want to move to the next 
line, I must put my cursor on the first letter of the following line. 
This problem may relate to settings in JAWS, as I've seen this happen in 
previous versions of it.  But I can't seem to figure out how to change 
it with V17.

Rachel

On 11/6/2016 2:43 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> I don't see the whole thread below, but I don't seem to be having 
> trouble editing forwarded messages or messages I'm replying to. I'm 
> using Orca under Linux, which may be the difference, but I also have 
> HTML turned off in the composition and addressing page of my account 
> settings. Maybe this setting would help.
>
> On 05/11/16 09:29, Ana G wrote:
>> Hmm, I wonder if the problems we're describing are Thunderbird, the
>> specific screen readers, or the way they interact. NVDA is my secondary
>> screen reader. Though Jaws is doing much better with Thunderbird lately,
>> I seem to go through phases where the two do and don't play nice. when
>> Jaws and Thunderbird aren't getting along, I use NVDA for email, and I
>> don't notice any problems. I know I've successfully edited a forward
>> with NVDA in the past, but I haven't tried recently, mostly because I'm
>> now used to using the reply work-around.the
>>
>>
>> As far as minor weirdnesses with Jaws and Thunderbird, I definitely
>> observe the issue Duane describes, and I also notice that, after I save
>> an attachment via alt+m, h from the message list, Jaws does return focus
>> to the list, but it says blank when I use the say line command. I need
>> to arrow up or down once. Like Dwane's issue, these are not show
>> stoppers, but they are irksome when I forget the work-arounds in the
>> middle of a busy email session.
>>
>>
>> Fortunately, the big show stoppers, like Jaws not reading subject lines
>> or Jaws randomly deciding not to read message bodies, have all been
>> cleared up.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/4/2016 9:32 PM, Rachel wrote:
>>> Thanks to Ana, Duane, and David for your responses. Ana's suggestion
>>> of turning a reply into a forward works really well, and I'm relieved
>>> that I now have a workaround. David, I find it interesting that you're
>>> having the same issues using NVDA. Could it be that the way
>>> Thunderbird displays headers has changed?  David, if you could, please
>>> try editing a forwarded message in Thunderbird with Window-Eyes.  I'll
>>> be interested to see what happens with that.
>>> Rachel
>>>
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