Agreed Jim.  A long time ago, a police officer friend told me he 
nearly got shot because he was down on his belly closing in on 
someone and, because his antenna wasn't vertical, he missed an 
important transmission or two from others onsite.  That was analog F 
M and he said he was sure careful of his antenna after that day!
Missed info can be life threatening to cops and firemen of course.
PatAt 01:07 PM 11/28/2015, you wrote:
>Right you are Pat.  I think the garble comes from just not
>getting a strong enough signal.  I thought digital would either
>be on or off, but evidently there's a mid state where you get
>some packets but not enough for the radio to decode.  I hope the
>real rigs the cops etc.  use sound better than the commercial
>scanners.  Jim WA6EKS
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>From: Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Date sent: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 10:18:39 -0600
>Subject: Re: P-25 audio?
>
>Completely agree Jim.  I get that garbled stuff as well and
>wondered
>if that wasn't some sort of encryption.  Maybe just garble!
>Chicago
>P D is still running UHF analog and it is sure easy to
>understand!  I
>wonder if my scanner needs a better antena than the whip on the
>back,
>but don't know what to look for.  Something inside - not going to
>bore a hole through the brick for that!!  Not to sound like an
>old
>fart, which I guess I am, but it is a wonderful time for
>technology
>but hard to keep up!
>PatAt 10:02 AM 11/28/2015, you wrote:
>Yah Pat, we have P-25 here too and sometimes it's just a bunch of
>garble, you know, like Greta Garble, smile.  But, it is what it
>is, whatever that means so we must live with it and hope they
>don't just all go encrypted! Jim WA6EKS
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Date sent: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 09:33:29 -0600
>Subject: Re: New Kenwood? what new Kenwood?
>
>And what concerns me Jim is which digital protocole will
>survive?  Yaesu has theirs and of course, Icom has Dstar, and
>perhaps
>that's not all the entries.  And our local police are a part of a
>Motorola, state-wide P25 system and I struggle to hear what is
>being
>said.  These old ears don't hear all that well any more, even
>with
>overpriced hearing aids!
>Pat, K9JAUAt 02:12 AM 11/28/2015, you wrote:
>Oh, well I for one am not yet interested in digital radio.  I
>wonder if it will develop into a flap like when, in the fifties,
>people were changing from AM to SSB? Yes I know digital offers
>infinitely more possibilities than that transition,  but it is
>still worth investigating before jumping into it particularly
>because of the accessibility questions that so often plague blind
>folks these days.  73, Jim WA6EKS
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>From: Dustin Thompson <[log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Date sent: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 02:04:07 -0600
>Subject: Re: New Kenwood? what new Kenwood?
>
>The DStar trip bander, or that's was the word at a ham convention
>and the DS=
>tar mailing list...=20
>
>73 Dustin KF5VXR
>
>
>    On Nov 28, 2015, at 1:56 AM, Jim Gammon
><[log in to unmask]
>wrote:
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