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Harry,


The steps you describe are not quite right.


If your friend is turning the phone on for the first time, hee needs to


* Turn on the phone by pressing the power button.


* on the start screen, hold two fingers until the phone speaks.


If the phone has already been set up, hee needs to go into Settings > 
Accessibility to make sure the Accessibility Shortcut is enabled; then 
he needs to


* hold down the power button for about 3 seconds to bring up the 
Power-Off screen.


* Then on the power-Off screen, hold two fingers on the screen.


The point is that we don't hold down the power button and hold our 
fingers on the screen at the same time.

Hope this helps.

Ciao

On 4/16/2018 11:33 AM, harry brown wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Well folks, my sighted friend Larry, has an Android phone, and he 
> wanted to see if he could turn talkback on, using the method that we 
> talk about, putting 2 fingers in the center of the screen, and holding 
> those fingers there. He Pressed and held in the power button, and at 
> the same time, put 2 fingers in the center of the phone, and kept his 
> fingers there, and the phone made a sound, then it booted up, and he 
> kept his 2 fingers in the center of the screen and talk back did not 
> come on.
>
> Harry
>
>
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