Here's something very timely from the New Yorker about Estonia and
their implementation "A Digital Republic" in the upcoming issue.  Not
a short read but certainly a system that would overcome many of the
situations Harry has mentioned.

By the Way: the FCC vote on net neutrality has been postponed.

See the New Yorker article here:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/18/estonia-the-digital-republic

On 12/11/17, Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Well folks, I've discovered that it's not just google chrome that
> doesn't let you do first letter navigation in things like bookmark
> lists, (yes I have looked online and did not find anything about first
> letter navigation).
>
> Microsoft is also now, not letting you use first letter navigation in
> windows.
>
> How do I know this? just press windows key and the letter x to open the
> quick access menu, and type the letters sh and you'll not be able to get
> to the shut down option in that menu, unless you have time to down arrow
> 15 times, to it.
>
> But Google and Microsoft think that consumers don't do anything all day,
> so, they have time to down arrow through 100 things, well, I don't, and
> probably, most of you, if not all of you, don't either.
>
> I fear what is coming in 2 different areas:
>
> 1. Eventually, whether you are blind or sighted, you will not be able to
> use first letter, or, multiple letter navigation in menus, or, in lists
> of files, that's if you're using windows that is.
>
> Now sighted people can see what icon they want, and click on things with
> a mouse, instantly, we cannot.
>
> And Microsoft doesn't give a rats but about it folks, they absolutely
> don't.
>
> My friend, Mike, a few years ago, was a very, very, busy, man. His
> sister had the nerve to say, "disabled people don't do anything all day,
> so you have time to sit there an wait for phone calls from me."
>
> That's how Microsoft and Google think. They think you and I have all
> day, to down arrow through things, for who knows how far down a list,
> and folks, you and I know that all the people on this list, are very
> busy folks, and we don't have time to sit there and down arrow through
> menus. Now people have said to me, Harry, go to Apple. I've tried that,
> with disasterous results. Every time you install something on a mac, you
> have to use your apple ID, I know that's the case, because that's what I
> had to do when I had my Mac, and voice over screwed itself up at
> different times, and that was absolutely frustrating.
>
> 2. Eventually, we can forget about using the internet. I don't know how
> many of you know this, but this Thursday, the FCC is going to get rid of
> net neutrality, that's not an opinion, that is a fact, it's going to
> happen.
>
> When that happens, comcast, at&T, and verizon, will determine, what
> pages you go to, and what you watch, and what you listen to, on the
> internet. We will have fast lanes, and we will have slow lanes, and we
> have no choice in this, the fcc is not listening to anyone right now,
> about this issue.
>
> Now, I'm not coming at this second point as a blind user, I'm coming at
> this as a consumer.
>
> All these big corporations are saying to us all today, this is the
> technology you get, either get use to it, or get out.
>
> What really hacks me off is, these companies don't listen to anyone
> today, they're all guilty of it, name me 1 company that does, in
> technology, you won't find any.
>
> And I don't want to hear anyone out here say to me, "oh well Harry, get
> use to it."
>
> They all think we're just a piece of crap. These companies run the
> world, and we're suppose to just go along to get along, I won't.
>
> I bet the day will come when we truly won't have a computer, or
> internet, the internet will be first, and that will be soon, for many.
>
> I don't think consumers, (disabled or not), should just sit here and
> take it. We need to raise **** and not take it, some how, some way.
>
> As someone wonderfully said on this list a while back, that the world
> will continue to be that way, more and more. They speak the truth, but
> let's get mad as you know what, and fight!
>
> Harry
>
>
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