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Steve Hoad <[log in to unmask]>
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Steve Hoad <[log in to unmask]>
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A lot of the resistance comes from the need to upgrade all of othe
other stuff: Jaws, Office, and any other productivity software.

On top of that, the older one gets, the more upgrades you do the more
habits you have to change.The Jaws (or any screen reader) upgrade
issue was a large one because of the cost and, again, the learning
curve.  When I bought a Windows 7 machine, I decided I was done trying
to figure where the money for screen reader upgrades would come from.
I spent a bit and got trained on NVDA and have not looked back.

I have not upgraded office from 2007 and so far, am still fine with it
even in Windows 10.  I waited a few months till I thought the bugs had
been found and upgraded to 10.  Haven't had a lot of problems and the
few that I've had are very minor. However, I do find Internet Explorer
not really working well in many areas that I use the web but Firefox
is a fine solution.

But, having learned on Windows 95 and having been through many
operating systems since I'll say the upgrade process is so constant it
is irritating and a bit stressful.

It used to be if you could read and write you were fine. Now, 1 must
stay up to date on tech just to function; not really a relaxing way to
spend one's normal older years.

Playing with grandchildren is much more fun :)

Stand by for the Windows 10 "Anniversary Update" next week and, take a
trial run of NVDA at
  http://www.nvaccess.org



On 7/27/16, Diane Scalzi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I upgraded two computers to Windows 10 last year and have had little
> trouble, although I have been keeping my JAWS up to date. I am still using
> Office 2007, and lately it has been working better, but I am thinking about
> upgrading.
>
> Diane
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ana G
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 4:42 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Why do I not want to upgrade to Windows 10 now?
>
> I think that a lot of blind and VI people haven't updated to Windows 10
> because there's a lot of misinformation out there about its accessibility.
>
>
> * Edge, the new web browser, is not accessible, but other
> browsers--Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Chrome--work just fine, and
> they can all be set as the default.
>
>
> * I've heard that the mail client isn't accessible, but I used it in
> Windows 8 at a previous job, and I tried it again just for giggles when
> I updated to Windows 10. While there were a few routine bumps here and
> there, I was able to use the program fairly efficiently to read and
> respond to large amounts of mail. I will say that, at the time, both
> Narrator and NVDA provided better experiences than Jaws. According to
> the latest FS Cast, Jaws now behaves like Narrator and NVDA.
>
>
> * I've heard Groove Music, the new Media Player, isn't accessible. this
> is true though I read somewhere that this is supposed to change. Windows
> Media Player still works, and so do other media players mentioned on
> blindness lists.
>
>
> * I've heard the new interface is a nightmare. The Metro tiles are very
> cell-phone like and not something that's right for everyone, but if you
> get your computer to boot to the desktop or to go into desktop mode, the
> experience is very familiar.
>
>
> * The memory issue is important if you do a lot of high-powered stuff,
> like audio editing and file transferring. for people who mostly surf the
> web, use email, and text edit, 4GB works 99% of the time. I know because
> my secondary computer is 4 GB.
>
>
> * Windows 10 does require that you update Office, so there's a little
> extra expense. I have a free year of Office 365 on my tablet and regular
> versions of Office on my laptop and desktop. There are some small
> differences, mostly involving uploading to the cloud. I personally like
> the standard Office better, using Drive and Dropbox to sync, but this is
> a matter of preference.
>
>
> * There are some differences between Windows 10 and Windows 7 or XP. I
> remember having trouble with this or that the first few weeks, but then
> I got used to the new way
>
> of doing things, and all is well.
>
> * My own experience is that the web works better in Windows 10 than in
> earlier versions.
>
> I personally don't understand why our community is so resistant to
> updating.
>
>
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 Steve Hoad


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