Yes, right you are.  We once got one of those dumb coffee makers 
and I took it back because it was not very accessible.  My 
greatest pet peeve is that technology can be so liberating and 
because of the idiots who make much of it don't consider putting 
in some simple beeps, or even speech, things that should or  
could be more accessible often wind up being unusuable for blind 
folks.  Ok, down off my soap box.  Well, one last thing, let's 
hear it for Universal Design! Jim WA6EKS

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:15:15 -0600
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

Eric, getting all our blind friends to become hams wouldn't do it 
either.
For example, look at all the products that are not accessible, 
for example,
the Keurig 2.0 coffee brewers.  Are there even any accessible new 
Sirius/XM
radios?
--
Jim, ke5al
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Oyen
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:42 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Accessibility of APRS?

actually, there is a way.
method 1: use a concurrent table that contains columns for 
station ID, =
LAT, LONG, DIrection of travel, Velocity, etc.

method 2 might involve using an app like apple maps (on their 
iPhone) =
which can tell the location of a pointer on the map (used in turn 
by =
turn navigation).

Honestly, I think the first method is easier to achieve.

The problem with map description is that it needs a lot of 
information =
not easily presentable and also needs a large amount of bandwidth 
for =
retrieval of location specifics in real time.

I have noticed this issue about a lot of the digital mode 
software for =
ham radio.  almost none of it is properly accessible for the 
blind =
(especially dm88 in HRD).  getting anyone to acknowledge that we 
(as a =
community of hams) even exists is starting to become a full time 
job =
(and sometimes even major frustration as I get the impression 
that they =
don't want to hear from us).

perhaps what we need to do is to find every blind person we can 
and =
encourage them to become hams.  The larger our population in a 
specific =
population market, the more we get listened to.  Its simple, 
direct and =
easy to do.

DE n7zzt Eric

On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:05 PM, John Miller wrote:

 I've experimented with APRS and I don't see a way, It shows 
actual =
maps on=20
 the screen with people pinpointed on them, nothing is described 
that I =
can=20
 tell except maybe longitude and latitude and I'm not even 
totally sure =
about=20
 that for sure.  I don't see it being able to be accessible in 
it's =
current=20
 state and not sure there's really any way they could make it =
accessible.
=20
 -----Original Message-----=20
 From: Matthew Chao
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:08 PM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Accessibility of APRS?
=20
 Hi, Folks.  I have a Kenwood TMV710A which has APRS.  Is there 
any
 way to make APRS accessible?  Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.=20


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