lol, ah yes, the trans-gender connecters where you can never be quite sure
which is which at first glanse...
The output connecter on the microphone itself, usually at the bottom, is an
XLR male...
The microphone input connections on the mixer, are female, though the ring
or connecter body assembly could be thought of as opposite of that. Unless
of course your mixer only has quarter inch inputs and no xlr connections
lol...in which case it's still female...then of course, you also have combo
jacks these days where you have a 3pin XLR female with a quarter inch female
in the center of the jack...
Fun stuff.
off to play some rock and roll and make allot of happy noise this evening!
73
Colin, V A6BKX
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gammon
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 10:37 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Running a mixer into my TS590
Hi Colin, the mixer I have is a really small 6 channel mixer with
no affects and no other outputs than the RCA line out's and the
quarter inch headphone jack. The audio cable I have has a
quarter inch jack for a foot pedal, the eight pin plug for the
rig, and a female XLR plug which is a little confusing when you
think about it because this XLR plug plugs into the mating XLR
and snaps into place, but the other plug plugs into the one I
have so which one is really the male version? I think my cable
has the female plug. Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:02:25 -0700
Subject: Re: Running a mixer into my TS590
you can buy cables from heil and probably others that go from an
8pin
kenwood plug and break out to an eighth inch jack for a ptt
switch, and a
female XLR jack.
In the audio world, female xlr is always input, and male xlr is
always
output.
I would tend to use the main output bus of the mixer rather than
the RCA
outputs.
You'll have 3 level controls: the channel fader which might be a
slider or
knob, a mike preamp gain which is usually the knob at the top of
the channel
strip, then your main master fader either knob or slider.
If you want to run multiple radios with multiple mikes you can
use the left
and right outputs separately and even the auxilery sends.
If you want to run one mike with two radios, or more, depending
on how many
aux sends you have, you can do that too.
Though on most of the smaller mixers, the auxilery send is pre EQ
so you
can't use the 3 band graphic EQ when using an aux send...unless
you have a
fancier mixer where you can switch the aux send between pre and
post
EQ...also again, the smaller mixers usually don't have the
ability to switch
the aux send between pre and post fader meaning your channel
fader will tend
to adjust the aux send level.
Anyway, I digress lol.
73
Colin, V A6BKX
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gammon
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 11:43 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Running a mixer into my TS590
Ok Colin, good to know, thanks. I didn't know how well shielded
the mixer might be. Yah, there are a number of gain controls on
that mixer, the individual mic slider, then the pot above that
slider, then the master gain. I just have to figure out how to
go the from the RCA line out's to an xlr male or female, can't
remember which, that then goes to the eight pen plug into the
rig. 73, Jim WA6EKS
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 21:23:11 -0700
Subject: Re: Running a mixer into my TS590
the behringer mixers are actually pretty well shielded from
RF...using
toroid power transformers, and audio isolation transformers on
each input...
Just use good quality shielded cables from the mike to mixer, and
from mixer
to radio and you should be alright...careful with levels though
as it will
over drive the radios mic preamp pretty quickly...
If you run the mic gain on the radio about 70 percent and watch
your ALC
during initial adjustment you should be fine though.
73
Colin, V A6BKX
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Gammon
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 9:06 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Running a mixer into my TS590
Colin, you're giving me an itch to try my Behringer Eurorack
field mixer on my 590. It only has three band EQ, but it would
be fun just to try it and see if it worked at all. My hunch is
that I would get a bunch of RF in the mixer. I got the thing
originally to record some of my gigs, but it proved to be too
much hassle to set everything up to record the gig and then play
at the same time trying to adjust gains to get some semblance of
a balance to it. 73, Jim WA6EKS
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
Date sent: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 20:05:07 -0700
Subject: Re: Apex 850
If you can get a patch cable made up that goes from the 4 pin
mike jack on
the radio, and splits out into one female XLR jack for audio, and
a pigtail
or female quarterinch/eighth inch jack for the PTT switch, then
you can run
any sort of outboard audio gear you want using xlr connections.
You can get say an Art microphone/instrument preamp with a 12ax7
tube in it
for around 50 bucks from your local yorkville equipment retailer,
like Long
and McQuade.
That said, the older tube radios usually have plenty of preamp
gain for the
microphone input so an external preamp isn't necesary...unless
you get a
preamp with some tone controls or an equalizer built in...which
might cost
you 75 bucks lol.
The reason devices like the W2IHY equalizer box is so popular is
because he
uses isolation transformers and ferrite filters to eliminate RF
interference
in the audio signal path...something you can usually eliminate by
proper
rf/electrical grounding of the radio and any outboard audio
stuff...
So yeah, you could mess around with that stuff if you get a cable
with a
female xlr jack for the audio input of the rig.
I haven't played HF in such a long time, but I have an art tube
preamp and
another behringer tube preamp sitting around that I should hook
up to the
old TS830s one of these days and see how they work with the shure
SM58.
I've also got a pro audio gator rack with a couple dual 31 band
EQ's and a
compressor/limiter/gate and a spare 6 channel mixer that I could
throw on
the HF rig for fun haha.
Either that, or get around to sending the ts2000 out to
california for
repares and get that back on the air so I can play radio again
with
something younger than me lol.
Lots of projects, not enough time...as always.
73
Colin, V A6BKX
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Ryan
Sent: Thursday, November 5, 2015 6:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Apex 850
I'm really hoping the Apex 850 I picked up a couple of weeks ago
works,
despite the fellow who took a look at it messed around with mic
it self
plus the 30 dollar cable purchased from a guy who makes and sells
them from
Ontario.
I dunno why he had to mess around with the mic, cable ok but not
the mic. I
tried it out in the store with everything set to flat on the
mixer and I
really enjoyed the sound in the headphones I was waring. Total
cost of the
stand, gooseneck boom arm, connecting cable and mic was 100. I
had a foot
switch already but if had to buy 1 new, call it 50 bucks.
Sounded way
better than my Heil Pro Micro duel for the same cost of 150 and
probably
sounds as good as the HM-12 or even the more expensive 2 or 300
dollar
pieces.
I may even just start over and throw this in the junk box and go
get
another and have someone else look at the cable I liked the sound
of this
apex so much. Apparently if you bump it now, you get a little
feed back
etc. I haven't used it yet, picking it up this saturday. Colin,
can you
describe this mic to preamp setup? Is it something that I could
get going
on my own?
I don't have enough sight to dig around with cable rewiring but I
guess any
compitent music tech in a music store should be able to help if I
show the
pin out of my FT-102 mic input jack.
73:
Mike DE VO1AX
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