Jim,
believe he moved to San Diego sometime in the late 90s.
tom Fowle WA6IVG
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 08:28:01PM -0800, Jim Gammon wrote:
> And speaking of sailing, Tom, do you know what happened to Tom
> Karnes who had a sailboat in SF bay and regularly took blind
> folks on trips? 73, Jim WA6EKS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Fowle <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:19:41 -0800
> Subject: OT. sailboats for the disabled.
>
> richard,
> Actually there are several dingies designed for folks with no or
> little
> lower body movement. puff and sip controls for the sheets and
> tiller and the
> lot. Cost like sin though.
> Tom Fowle WA6IVG
> Past commodore BAADS the Bay Area Association of Disabled
> Sailors.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:35:45PM -0800, Richard B. McDonald
> wrote:
> Tom, now that is funny - a sailboat for the disabled! LOL!
> priceless indeed!
> And, I think you are right on the painting matter too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop
> Antenna
>
> It might make sense to paint something expensive like the
> Steppir with
> "EXPENSIVE" marine paint, but PVC is pretty cheap it'd probably
> be cheaper
> to replace the pvc every couple years or so rather than use
> marine paint on
> it.
>
> Anything "MaARINE" is way expensive. like anything for the
> "DISABLED" Gosh,
> think what they must charge for sailboats for the disabled!
> Yeah, been there
> seen that!
> Just my not very humble opinion. <GRIN
> Tom Fowle WA6IVG
>
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 09:51:34AM -0700, Alan R. Downing
> wrote:
> I haven't been following this thread, but if it hasn't already
> been
> suggested, I would suggest that you paint with some quality
> marine
> paint. I know guys that want to extend the life of their
> SteppIr
> tubes use marine paint because it isn't bothered by the elements
> as
> much as regular outdoor paint would be.
>
> HTH
>
> Alan - N7MIT
>
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop
> Antenna
>
> Yeah, Kent, painting is widely recommended. Some sort of a
> latex
> paint is best I suppose especially since I will put the wire
> inside
> the PVC. I guess it will come down to the cost differential
> between
> 1) "Schedule 40" UV resistant PVC versus 2) non-UV resistant PVC
> plus
> the cost of the necessary paint.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Kent Plemmons
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:12 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop
> Antenna
>
> Hi,
>
> Don't use the "black", that is not PVC but rather ABS. When the
> sun
> hits ABS it will bow due to it being black and the side of the
> pipe
> that is directly exposed to the sun will expand causing a bow.
> PVC
> that is gray is generally used as electrical conduit and offers
> some
> characteristic that greatly reduces static that might build up
> in a
> wire. Pretty much any PVC will work but I personally would
> paint it.
>
> Kent, KK4FFF, Clyde NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Richard B. McDonald
> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 12:47 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop
> Antenna
>
> Hi Tom!
>
> thanks for this. Right - "Schedule 40" PVC it shall be!
> Incidentally, is it grey? Someone said to use the "grey" PVC
> for its
> UV resistance; and another member of this list said to avoid the
> "black" PVC for its carbon content.
>
> As far as placement of the loop, I am planning just to place it
> atop
> my shack's roof. The roof is flat with a ~3% slant, and ~13'
> high.
>
> 73,
> Richard KK6MRH
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 5:44 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop
> Antenna
>
> richard,
> To clarify another post, you need to use "Schedule 40" pvc which
> is U.V.
> resistant.
>
> I'd think each segment of your loop won't be much more than 2
> meters long.
> I'd kind of doubt you'll need reinforcemment for that
> relatively
> small setup, but you could also use a few extra rope supports
> depending on how you're going to support the loop.
>
> There shouldn't be any; issue with running the wire inside the
> pipe,
> except kind of a tangle while assembling everything on the long
> wire.
>
> How do you plan to support the loop?
>
> Tom Fowle WA6IVG
> On Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 05:14:52PM +0000, R Bernstein wrote:
> Use uv-resistant PVC. Reinforce it inside with wooden dowels or
> possibly 3=
> /4 inch PVC.
>
> 73, Rick W3GWU
> ________________________________________
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [[log in to unmask]]
> on beha= lf of Richard B. McDonald [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 9:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop Antenna
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
> So, I am planning to make my RX only 10M (28.4 MHZ) full wave
> loop
> antenna into an octagon shape. My wire is insulated 14 gauge
> stranded
> copper wire.
> I intend to use ~1.0" diameter PVC pipe for a frame. About PVC
> pipe, does it matter if I 1) put the wire inside the pipe or 2)
> tape
> it to the outside of the pipe? I prefer putting the wire inside
> the
> pipe.
> However, are ther= e any RF interference issues with PVC? Also,
> I
> wonder how PVC will hold-up t= o the elements - particularly UV
> light (sunlight)?
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Richard KK6MRH
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