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Jim,
believe he moved to San Diego sometime in the late 90s.
tom Fowle WA6IVG

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 08:28:01PM -0800, Jim Gammon wrote:
> And speaking of sailing, Tom, do you know what happened to Tom 
> Karnes who had a sailboat in SF bay and regularly took blind 
> folks on trips? 73, Jim WA6EKS
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Fowle <[log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date sent: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 18:19:41 -0800
> Subject: OT.  sailboats for the disabled.
> 
> richard,
> Actually there are several dingies designed for folks with no or 
> little
> lower body movement.  puff and sip controls for the sheets and 
> tiller and the
> lot.  Cost like sin though.
> Tom Fowle WA6IVG
> Past commodore BAADS the Bay Area Association of Disabled 
> Sailors.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:35:45PM -0800, Richard B.  McDonald 
> wrote:
>  Tom, now that is funny - a sailboat for the disabled! LOL! 
> priceless indeed!
>  And, I think you are right on the painting matter too.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>  On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
>  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:07 PM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop 
> Antenna
> 
>  It might make sense to paint something expensive like the 
> Steppir with
>  "EXPENSIVE" marine paint, but PVC is pretty cheap it'd probably 
> be cheaper
>  to replace the pvc every couple years or so rather than use 
> marine paint on
>  it.
> 
>  Anything "MaARINE" is way expensive.  like anything for the 
> "DISABLED" Gosh,
>  think what they must charge for sailboats for the disabled! 
> Yeah, been there
>  seen that!
>  Just my not very humble opinion.  <GRIN
>  Tom Fowle WA6IVG
> 
>  On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 09:51:34AM -0700, Alan R.  Downing 
> wrote:
>  I haven't been following this thread, but if it hasn't already 
> been
>  suggested, I would suggest that you paint with some quality 
> marine
>  paint.  I know guys that want to extend the life of their 
> SteppIr
>  tubes use marine paint because it isn't bothered by the elements 
> as
>  much as regular outdoor paint would be.
> 
>  HTH
> 
>  Alan - N7MIT
> 
> 
> 
>  Alan R.  Downing
>  Phoenix, AZ
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: For blind ham radio operators
>  [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>  On Behalf Of Richard B.  McDonald
>  Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 7:48 AM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop 
> Antenna
> 
>  Yeah, Kent, painting is widely recommended.  Some sort of a 
> latex
>  paint is best I suppose especially since I will put the wire 
> inside
>  the PVC.  I guess it will come down to the cost differential 
> between
>  1) "Schedule 40" UV resistant PVC versus 2) non-UV resistant PVC 
> plus
>  the cost of the necessary paint.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: For blind ham radio operators
>  [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>  On Behalf Of Kent Plemmons
>  Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 11:12 AM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop 
> Antenna
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  Don't use the "black", that is not PVC but rather ABS.  When the 
> sun
>  hits ABS it will bow due to it being black and the side of the 
> pipe
>  that is directly exposed to the sun will expand causing a bow.  
> PVC
>  that is gray is generally used as electrical conduit and offers 
> some
>  characteristic that greatly reduces static that might build up 
> in a
>  wire.  Pretty much any PVC will work but I personally would 
> paint it.
> 
>  Kent, KK4FFF, Clyde NC
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: For blind ham radio operators
>  [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>  On Behalf Of Richard B.  McDonald
>  Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 12:47 PM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop 
> Antenna
> 
>  Hi Tom!
> 
>  thanks for this.  Right - "Schedule 40" PVC it shall be!
>  Incidentally, is it grey?  Someone said to use the "grey" PVC 
> for its
>  UV resistance; and another member of this list said to avoid the
>  "black" PVC for its carbon content.
> 
>  As far as placement of the loop, I am planning just to place it 
> atop
>  my shack's roof.  The roof is flat with a ~3% slant, and ~13' 
> high.
> 
>  73,
>  Richard KK6MRH
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: For blind ham radio operators
>  [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>  On Behalf Of Tom Fowle
>  Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 5:44 PM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Re: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop 
> Antenna
> 
>  richard,
>  To clarify another post, you need to use "Schedule 40" pvc which 
> is U.V.
>  resistant.
> 
>  I'd think each segment of your loop won't be much more than 2 
> meters long.
>  I'd kind of doubt you'll need reinforcemment  for that 
> relatively
>  small setup, but you could also use a few extra rope supports
>  depending on how you're going to support the loop.
> 
>  There shouldn't be any; issue with running the wire inside the 
> pipe,
>  except kind of a tangle while assembling everything on the long 
> wire.
> 
>  How do you plan to support the loop?
> 
>  Tom Fowle WA6IVG
>  On Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 05:14:52PM +0000, R Bernstein wrote:
>  Use uv-resistant PVC.  Reinforce it inside with wooden dowels or
>  possibly 3=
>  /4 inch PVC.
> 
>  73, Rick W3GWU
>  ________________________________________
>  From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [[log in to unmask]]
>  on beha= lf of Richard B.  McDonald [[log in to unmask]]
>  Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 9:11 AM
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Subject: Using PVC as a Frame for My 10M Full Wave Loop Antenna
> 
>  Hi!
> 
> 
> 
>  So, I am planning to make my RX only 10M (28.4 MHZ) full wave 
> loop
>  antenna into an octagon shape.  My wire is insulated 14 gauge
>  stranded
>  copper wire.
>  I intend to use ~1.0" diameter PVC pipe for a frame.  About PVC
>  pipe, does it matter if I 1) put the wire inside the pipe or 2) 
> tape
>  it to the outside of the pipe?  I prefer putting the wire inside 
> the
>  pipe.
>  However, are ther= e any RF interference issues with PVC?  Also, 
> I
>  wonder how PVC will hold-up t= o the elements - particularly UV
>  light (sunlight)?
> 
> 
> 
>  73,
> 
>  Richard KK6MRH

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