Yep, but was sold as a new or perhaps refurbished working radio.  These 
were sold on closeout when they came out with the gs for around $1199 as 
I recall.  I think new ones go for $1600 or so, haven't looked.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Tue, 4 
Aug 2015, Jim Shaffer wrote:

> Actually a price of $600 doesn't seem excessive to me.  If you consider what
> you'd spend just selling a used TS-590S that worked, and then buying a new
> sg, it would probably be around a $600 difference.  Given this is a
> non-working rig, $600 sounds reasonable.
> --
> Jim, ke5al
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Butch Bussen
> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 9:10 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>
> That sounds like to much.  How long have you had this radio?  If you
> can, I'd dispute the charge with your credit card company and go
> shopping for a gs elsewhere.  BTW, there are no differences in controls
> on the front pannel, a few menu changes.  I haven't heard anything about
> transmit audio either, a little better receiver performance.
> 73
> Butch
> WA0VJR
> Node 3148
> Wallace, ks.
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Aug
> 2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
>
>> Well, the defective TS-590S is on its way back to R&L Electronics. We
>> shall
>> see what they tell me when they receive it and check it out for
>> themselves.
>> If I can work out a deal where it doesn't cost me a ton of money, I'm
>> going
>> to up-grade to the TS-590SG model. However, the first fellow I talked to
>> wasn't the head honcho, and when I talked later to the top guy, he was so
>> willing to work with me on just up-grading to the new model with my paying
>> a
>> reasonable difference. Nothing has been decided yet, but I got the strong
>> impression that it might end up costing me $600 to $700 difference to get
>> the TS-590SG. Like Pat said, for those kinds of dollars, I could buy a new
>> MFJ 998 automatic antenna tuner!
>>
>> Thanks again guys for all your feedback and help!
>>
>> Ron, K8HSY
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Tom Behler
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 4:40 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>>
>> For what it's worth, I second Jim and Butch on this one!
>>
>> Besides, then, we'll have another expert on the new TS590SG on the list
>> who
>> can assist the rest of us on its inner workings as time progresses.
>> (smile)
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 1:37 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>>
>> Ron, I'd take the new sg deal in a heart beat.  You won't get your TS-590S
>> fixed for nothing in any case.  It sounds like they're making you a very
>> reasonable offer.
>> --
>> Jim, ke5al
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 12:07 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>>
>> Butch, thanks for your reply. I've read several reviews since sending out
>> my
>> earlier post to the list this morning, and all of the reviews I read where
>> people had firsthand experience with both models of the TS-590, say the
>> TS-590SG is quite a bit better, both the transmitter audio quality and the
>> receiver's sensitivity and selectivity. As much as I like my other
>> TS-590s,
>> the one I have at the lake, I can't imagine how the newer model could be
>> that much better, but evidently it is.
>>
>> Ron, K8HSY
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Butch Bussen
>> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 11:34 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: TS-590s verses the TS-590SG
>>
>> There is a review which discusses the differences in I think July q s t.
>>  I don't think the controls are different, they've changed receiver a bit,
>> and allow you to split off the antenna for another receiver.  I'd probably
>> pay the differnece just to avoid the delay.  Good luck.
>> 73
>> Butch
>> WA0VJR
>> Node 3148
>> Wallace, ks.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 3
>> Aug 2015, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
>>
>>> I just got off the phone with R&L Electronics concerning my defective
>>> TS-590s. We are discussing two options:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.       Send my defective transceiver back and have it repaired or
>> replaced
>>> under the warranty or
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.       Send it back and have it replaced with a new TS-590SG with my
>>> paying the difference of between $250 and $300.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do any of you have any experience with the two models; that is, do any
>>> of you have any knowledge of whether the TS-590SG is worth the $250 or
>>> $300 difference I would have to pay to get the newest model?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The issue came up when R&L told me that they didn't have any TS-590's
>>> in stock to send me if my current one had to be replaced. However,
>>> they have 3
>>>
>>> TS-590SG models in stock, which they could ship out as soon as they
>>> received mine. They also said that since they didn't have any TS-590s
>>> units that they would most likely just turn around and re-ship my
>>> defective radio to Kenwood for repair, and if that were the case, they
>>> would have me just send mine back directly to Kenwood to begin with.
>>> So, something that seems so simple turns out to be a bit complicated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The real question is .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is the newest TS-590SG worth the difference I would have to pay if I
>>> were to have R&L simply ship me out the newest model rather than
>>> waiting to have mine repaired???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm leaning toward just having my TS-590 repaired and sent back to me
>>> since I already have another TS-590s and I am extremely familiar with
>>> that model, rather than having two different models that have slightly
>>> different controls and menu selections. Though I don't feel strongly
>>> either way. Any recommendations???
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron, K8HSY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Ronald E. Milliman
>>>
>>> Retired Professor of Marketing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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