Amen loving Pat.
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> On Jul 24, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Pat Ferguson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Amen Phil,
>
> I do believe in miracles even today. I do believe in Prophecy today, no matter what anyone says.
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> I've seen living proof of miracles and they aren't just cooincidents, either.
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> Every time God chooses to heal, that's a miracle.
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> Jesus is the same Yesterday, today and every day.
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> I've got the movie called Heaven Is For Real, now, and it is in descriptive video.
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> Angel, I wish you would read the book, but since you choose not to, that is your choice.
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> I will pray for you that God changes your heart.
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> You are all Loving!
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>
> Thanks much.
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> Many Blessings,
>
> Pat Ferguson
> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
>
> At 03:10 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>> Angel,
>>
>> After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology. But you aren't going to do that, are you? You are going to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible believers. I still say you are just simply afraid to read it because you would rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>
>>
>>> I am not angry,, I apologize if it seems that I am,. I just can't understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our personal angels. They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a book shelf. Almost as if it were gospel itself? It seems to me, protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from almost anyone who claims it to be true. Some are almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin is real. When Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there. If he saw him. Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven. Why should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly experiences. When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as having been done by that Saint. It is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly accounts. I ask, what is the litmus test to which you all have put this recounting from this young man whom no one on the list knows personally? Now I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't real experiences. I am just saying why I don't believe they should be taken at face value. Only God knows whether those experiences weren't hallucinations. My late husband suffered from a load of those. Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too. My first reaction to
>>>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>> compassion.
>>>> Any book that talks about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant to encourage us.
>>>> I haven't walked on water, or raised the dead, but God has saved my
>>>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>> people to salvation, which is what really matters.
>>>> We'll know the book by it's fruit. Angel, I'm sorry you seem so angry.
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>>> experience. I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book and
>>>>> I'm wondering why. Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>>> from beginning to end. Are you worried it might challenge some of your most
>>>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
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