Hi Tom!

Yep,and just when we think we've got it mastered, because something we
anticipated actually performed as we intended, we quickly discover how wrong
we were, hi hi.

73,
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Wednesday, 17 June 2015 5:14 a.m.
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Return QSL Card Obligations

Good luck with the phone, Bob.

As I'm sure you and others on the list know, there's a really steep learning
curve with smart phones, since they involve a very sensitive touch screen,
but I'm sure I'll get there in time.

It's like anything else we learn--we gradually learn by doing.

Tom Behler: KB8TYJ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Bob Tinney
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:54 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Return QSL Card Obligations

I haven't sent out a qsl card in over 40 years.  I did send out lots of them
when I was a novice, but got tired of that when I ran out of places to
display them and lost interest in chasing dx.  Tom, I'm also trying to
figure out my new Android Moto X second gen phone.

Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]

On 6/16/2015 12:30 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
> Lloyd:
>
> Your situation sounds similar to mine and Steve's.
>
> It simply seems impossible, or at least impractical, to keep up with 
> everything, without some sort of sustained sighted help.
>
> As I've said, this is one of the motivating factors behind my trying 
> to get up and running on L O T W when I get the chance here.
>
> Right now, I'm concentrating on mastering the basics of my new I phone 6.
> (LOL)
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:57 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Return QSL Card Obligations
>
> I get a lot of QSL cards, mostly via the bureau, and have not answered
many.
>
> When I do respond, I write some braille on the card, like k7uc de w3iuu .
> I admit that a lot of cards that said "PSE QSL" have gone unanswered. 
> I need to finish my LOTW (logbook of the world) setup, because I have 
> never applied for DXCC or even WAS or WAC.
> 73,
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD http://lras.home.sprynet.com 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Behler
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 5:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Return QSL Card Obligations
>
> Ashley:
>
> The only dum or silly question is the question that goes unasked.  So, 
> please don't hesitate to ask when you do have questions, since this is 
> what the list is for.
>
> A qsl card is exchanged as a way of officially confirming a contact 
> between two stations.
>
> Let's say, for example, that you wanted to document the fact that you 
> worked all 50 states from your station, which would qualify you for a 
> Worked All States certificate from the ARRL.  Then, you would need to 
> have a qsl card from each state to show that you have done this.
>
> Up until recently, this was done through the exchange of printed qsl 
> cards, that look much like a normal post card that you would send 
> through the regular postal mail or through something called the ARRL's 
> QSL
bureau.
>
> In recent years, due to the cost of cards, and associated postage, 
> increasing numbers of hams have migrated over to some form of electric 
> q s l ing.
>
> This is where programs like Log Book Of The World (OR LOTW) come into
play.
> LOTW is the officially recognized QSL documentation system used by the
ARRL.
>
> I'll keep it short here, but this should give you at least somewhat of 
> an idea regarding the meaning of these various terms.
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Ashley Bernard
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:45 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Return QSL Card Obligations
>
> Apologies in advance for the silly question, I could probably go look 
> it = up but, since it=E2=80=99s being discussed, what is/why/when does 
> one = receive a =E2=80=9CQSL card? and what is =E2=80=9CLOTW?
> I got my license in october and definitely have a lot to learn. = 
> Unfortunately I haven=E2=80=99t been on air since moving, but if life 
> = goes according to plan I hope to fix that by next week.
> Anyway 73.
> KC1CPS
>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> =20
>> Hello, everyone.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> I realize that I'm bringing up a topic here on which there will be =
> many
>> differing opinions, but it is becoming an increasing problem for me, 
>> =
> and I
>> suspect I'm not alone.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> The problem is with printed QSL cards, and the extent one should feel 
>> obligated to reciprocate with a return QSL.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> Back in the day, I was actually pretty good at return QSLing, 
>> although =
> I'm
>> sure some of the cards I received slipped through the cracks.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> Even today, I'm good at return QSLing for cards that I receive for =
> which I'm
>> directly asked to return qsl.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> However, in recent years, I have gotten many qsl cards (including =
> quite a
>> few from the buro) on which there is no indication that a return qsl 
>> =
> is
>> needed.  Of course, the polite thing to do would be to send return =
> qsls, and
>> I even have a QSL template in Microsoft Word format that I can use.  
>> =
> But
>> that requires sighted assistance for printing and such that is just =
> not as
>> available to me as used to be the case.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> One of these days, I intend to get fully up and running on LOTW, and 
>> =
> my hope
>> is that electronic QSLing will solve some of this issue, but for now, 
>> =
> I'm
>> not exactly sure when that will happen, due to the many other 
>> projects =
> I
>> have on my plate which must take precedence.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> To be honest, I'm feeling somewhat guilty about not return QSLing for 
>> =
> the
>> many cards I have now received, which is why I'm writing this e-mail.
>> =
> I
>> just wonder what others have done over the years.
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>> =20
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