I'm a slate and stylus kind of guy; Louis Braille injured his eye with
a leather awl and my stylus seems eerily similar----I'm labelling and
writing notes daily; my shopping lists, phone numbers (yes I write
them down never trusting devices completely) and I want my reference
books and cards in braille, too. I learned to read it 63 years ago and
neither my nor Braille's operating systems have changed much exscept
for minor upgrades.

On 8/23/17, Terri Hedgpeth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well, I am with Ana on this topic. And though it is stinging expensive for
> just producing Braille labels, I finally broke down and bought the Logan
> Tech 6Dot labeler. I absolutely love this thing. I can make labels extremely
> quickly using whatever short-hand and/or grade two Braille. All I do is flip
> the switch on and start typing/Brailling. I to love the convenience of
> Braille labels on credit cards, books, DVDs, spices, box mixes, canisters,
> salad dressings, and so so many more items. I like the instant knowing with
> just a touch of my fingers what something is or contains. I have an older ID
> Mate, and a Pen Friend, but just don't grab either to identify items. I just
> want to know which jar is the Roasted Garlic dressing. I don't want to add
> bar codes labels, or use a device that may or may not need charging or
> updating before I can locate a can of Kidney Beans. In fact, I'll probably
> sell my ID Mate Summit and PenFriend. For detailed info on any item, I go to
> my smart phone or PC and search Google or Directions For Me.
> For me as a long time Braille user, Braille just seems to make everything
> easier.
> Just my personal opinion here and my personal preference for accessing item
> info at home and work.
> Best,
> Terri
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] braille embossed on all grocery items? Larry thinks
> so!!!!
>
> I don't understand why the U.S. doesn't already have braille labels. I
> believe products sold in the U.K. have basic labels in uncontracted braille,
> so the technology is available, and American companies are already doing
> it.
>
>
> I suspect that part of the reason people don't learn braille is that they
> don't feel they have any reason to. I'm an English teacher. When I ask my
> students about the last thing they read, they mention textbooks and news
> articles. They forget about text messages, product labels, packaging
> instructions, etc. People who are newly blind probably think the same way
> and figure they don't want to put any energy into learning braille since
> they don't plan to read _War and Peace_. Having braille on product packages,
> even if it's as basic as a name (e.g., Campbell's vegetable soup) would give
> them a reason to want to learn braille and make the lives of people on this
> list so much easier.
>
>
> I'm not sure that electronic solutions are the way to go. We can already use
> bar codes to get lots of product info, and we have solutions like the
> PenFriend with easy-to-make QR and NFC labels, but most of us don't use so
> on a regular basis. At least I don't because my own braille labels are so
> much quicker and easier to read (though not to make).
>
>
> On 8/23/2017 2:07 PM, Mike Pietruk wrote:
>> Harry
>>
>> As the vast majority of blind people don't read Braille (70% and
>> higher, it would make little practical or commercial doing this.
>> Probably what would work better, and this should be totally voluntary,
>> would be some sort of digital coding that a device could read and
>> communicate the info to the blind person.
>> That would be a far more viable approach both in delivering the
>> information as well as reaching a far larger portion of the blind
>> audience.
>> And, I suspect that with existing technology, this might be
>> accomplished quite easily with most of the development done on the
>> user end with a bit of co-operation on the manufacturing and packaging
>> side.
>> Conveying the info in bgraille really these days isn't the road to go.
>>
>>
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