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Hi to all.

Between my signature and Harry's response to my first message, I have included a link and the text from that link that Harry is referring to. Please note that those with Windows Pro do, in fact, get to defer updates, but I was unable to determine from the link from the website (you'll need to read the story from the website itself to access that link) how long that deferment could be.
--
Ted Chittenden

Every story has at least two sides if not more.
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https://www.komando.com/columns/321082/5-urgent-questions-about-windows-10-answered/3

5 urgent questions about Windows 10 answered
 
By Kim Komando 




 




4. Is it true I can't refuse updates?
With Windows 10, Microsoft decided that all security and program updates would install automatically the day they're released. This makes sense for security, since millions of Windows users worldwide don't install updates and leave their computers open to attack.


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Unfortunately, it also means that you can't avoid problematic updates, as some Windows 10 users found out recently. Microsoft released a cumulative update that put some machines into an endless reboot, and there was no way to tell Windows to ignore the update. Microsoft is probably going to keep tweaking the system to minimize situations like that in the future, but it's still a bit of control you no longer have.

If you're using Windows 10 Pro or Enterprise, there is an option to defer updates for a little while. If you're running Windows 10 Home, however, you're out of luck.

Also, the way Windows 10 gets updates has changed. By default, it is downloading update files from other users, and other users get to download update files from your computer. Learn why Microsoft is doing this and the setting you can change to stop it.

That isn't the only privacy concern that comes with Windows 10. 
Here are three more you need to know about, from ad tracking to learning everything about your life it can.
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---- Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
Hi all,
The above information about windows 10 letting you have the choice to 
not get updates is in correct.
They will let you defer for a while, but not perminently.
Just go look on the Kim komando web site, especially, her columns about 
windows 10.
They will, make you take those updates.
I'm not gonna take them, and let Microsoft force me into taking updates 
I don't want.
Harry
On 8/15/2015 8:11 AM, ted chittenden wrote:
> Hi to all.
>
> Here are a few important points when deciding whether or not to follow Harry's advice:
>
> 1) While Windows 7 and 8 will be supported in the short term (2020 for Windows 7 and I have seen no announcement for Windows 8 yet), in the long term, both operating systems will be shunted aside as Microsoft works on the operating system that will replace Windows 10. When I say "shunted aside,", I mean that there will be no more updates for these systems after the dates they are scheduled to end, and no new computers you purchase will feature the older operating systems.
>
> 2) To add insult to injury (at least from Harry's perspective), if you don't take the free version of Windows 10 now, you *will* have to pay for it by the time you are forced to upgrade to it. For most blind people, that's money they really don't have.
>
> 3) Whether or not Microsoft "forces" you to install Windows 10 and install all updates after you get it depends on what version, Home or Professional, of Windows you are using. If you are using the Home version, Harry is correct. However, if you are using the slightly more expensive Professional version, then the choice of update installations in both your current version of Windows and Windows 10 will remain yours.
>
> 4) Finally, while Edge is currently not accessible, my understanding is that Microsoft is, in fact, working on correcting this issue.
> --
> Ted Chittenden
>
> Every story has at least two sides if not more.
> ---- Harry Brown <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Well folks, I've been in the lurk mode, when it comes to windows 10, and
> I even had, the get windows 10 app on my computer, and I had it in
> system tray, (that notification area on your computer).
> But then I found out some things, that I really didn't care for, about
> windows 10, and so tonight, I finally found out, how to get rid of
> windows 10, for good!
> Here's why I don't want it:
> 1. In windows 10, Microsoft spies on you. That's right, what web sites
> you go to, what emails you got, what files are on your computer.
> I don't know about you, but yours truely has personal things I want
> nobody to find out, about me. Nothing illegal, but just personal things.
> It's none of there business what I say in my emails, and it's none of
> their business, where I go on the web.
> 2. Did you know that Microsoft will force you to take all their updates
> in windows 10? I mean, no choice folks, and even if you have windows 10
> Ultimate, you can defer getting updates for so long, then they will put
> these updates on your computer. Now that's great for the security
> updates, you want to take those, but not new versions of programs that
> are not accessible, like Edge, for instance, which is Microsoft's new
> browser.
> So, what to do?
> Tonight, I got rid of that windows 10 app, that icon in my system tray,
> that kept saying "get windows 10".
> So, if you want to get rid of that app and icon on your Windows 8.1, 8,
> or windows 7 computer like I did, do the following:
> 1. Go to control panel.
> 2. Then, press s till it says system link, then click system link.
> 3. Then, tab to windows update, and click it.
> 4. Then, tab to "view installed updates", or, myne said "installed updates."
> 5. A list of all your windows updates should pop up, and just down arrow
> till you find this update, and it will be a windows security update, but
> the thing to pay close attention to is the kb number, because you have
> to know which one to uninstall.
> The kb number to listen for is
> KB3035583
> Now, when you hear that kb number, click on it.
> Windows will ask you if you want to uninstall this update.
> Up arrow to yes, and press space bar or enter.
> It will uninstall it, then, it will say it needs to restart your
> computer, and just click the restart now button, or if it is just a yes
> no choice, click yes.
> When I did this, after my computer was restarted, I went to the system
> tray, and sure enough, that "get windows 10" icon was gone!
> So, there you have it, folks.
> Now here's another thing everybody needs to know. If you have this "get
> windows 10" icon on your computer, if you don't want windows 10 on your
> computer, you need to do the above instructions, as soon as possible,
> because without warning, Microsoft is automatically, putting windows 10
> on peoples computers without there permission, because they have that
> "get windows 10" icon in the system tray, meaning they have that windows
> 10 app, and Microsoft thinks anyone with that, wants and is ready to get
> windows 10 on their computer, automatically downloaded and installed, on
> their computer.
> Now if you are using 10, and you decide that you want to go back to a
> previous version of windows, you only have 30 days from the time windows
> 10 was installed on your computer, in which you can go back. If you
> don't go back to your previous windows version in 30 days from the time
> windows 10 was installed on your computer, they will not let you go
> back, and you'll be stuck with windows 10.
> Harry
>
>
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