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Matt,

You're a glutton for punishment,  so here is some more:

Menus 46 and 47 control audio in and out for the data jack.    Default 
is (I think) 4, which is mid point.   Just be sure neither is set to zero.

You can try turning the data vox on in menu 60, but i'm still not 
positive it's needed.  But it won't hurt anything.  Maybe it will help.


RTTY has been around since Marconi was in short pants and there is no 
error correction as in other  modern digital modes.   You are always 
going to pick up some junk, but  if it is a constant stream of garbage, 
you   should probably back down the RX level control on the SL.    Turn 
it full ccw, then up a bit until you start getting lot's of junk, then 
back it off a bit.  If set too high, it will overdrive the soundcard. 
  Also if you ever hear the screen reader say "overflow" or 
"overloaded", or whatever it says, it means  the RX audio to the 
soundcard is way too high.


If you are hearing tones when you hit f9, but the radio doesn't key, 
here are a few options, in no particular order:

Did you set com port under the TX tab in setup to "none"?

After installing the interface, did you go into windows as directed and 
set things to 100 percent?

Did you tell setup under the soundcard tab to use the  USB audio for TX?

73, Steve KW3A


On 7/18/2015 4:26 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
> Oh, I found the menu setting for non-voice vox as you mentioned
> (60).  Also, turning the right knob on the sl didn't seem to change anything.
>
> Also, in menus 46-47, there are different levels, but I don't know
> what they represent.--Matt, n1ibb.
>
> At 12:33 PM 7/18/2015 -0400, you wrote:
>> Matt,
>>
>> Sounds like you are making progress..   There may be RTTY software that
>> does some kind of auto tune thing,but I'm not aware of it
>>
>> The software has several kinds of visual tuning aids, but not  usable by
>> a screen reader.     One of them shows the received signal  as a peak
>> on a graph, and you would tune until the top of the peak lines up with a
>>     line.  Not very useful
>>
>> I just tune by sound and  slowly  tune across the signal until JAWS
>> starts to speak.    You will get to develop an ear for it.     The
>> narrower you can get your filters, the easier it is  to tune this way.
>>
>> The Vox is located in the Signal Link.  It is controled by the knob on
>> the right. Maybe set it full ccw and see what happens.    There is a
>> data vox in the 480, but I don't think you need it.   Menu 60 selects
>> between mic and data for vox, but  (scratching my head) I don't think
>> you need it with the vox  in the SL, but you can try turning  it on for
>> data in menu 60.
>>
>> When you press f9, do you hear anything at all?  Does the receiver on
>> the radio mute when you press f9?
>>
>>
>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>
>> On 7/18/2015 12:07 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>> Hi, Folks.  Making progress.  Read the test message I played; forgot
>>> what keystrokes I used, semi-educated guesses.  Got out of the main
>>> screen and told WE to "speak all".  Also, got on 20 meters, listened
>>> for RTTY, AND WAS ABLE VIA PITCH TO TUNE IN.  At 09:5Is there an
>>> easier way to do this?  Kept "speak all" on.  Got some garbled
>>> characters, but seemed to get some callsigns that made sense.
>>>
>>> Regarding transmitting, do I need to turn vox on?  And how do I set
>>> vox sensitivity?  Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.
>>>
>>> 8 AM 7/18/2015 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Good luck in your adventure.    After speaking with Jim KE5AL last night
>>>> following the echolink net, looks like he has  gotten things working.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps if more of us  get our fingers into this stuff, there will be
>>>> more tips, tricks, and work arounds  to be shared with the multitude.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/18/2015 9:41 AM, Dave Basden wrote:
>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't take the discussion off list--I'm following along with
>>>>> the same questions as Matt has.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave, W7OQ
>>>>>
>>>>> At 05:22 AM 7/18/2015, you wrote:
>>>>>> Yes  that is the power button.  Push it in.  It draws power from the USB
>>>>>> connection, so  no other power source needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, the wav file played.  Now you know what RTTY sounds like.  It's just
>>>>>> a test message.   As it  plays, the text should  display in the receive
>>>>>> window of the program.    Now you need to make your software read that
>>>>>> text out to you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know you use WE.  I use JAWS.   In JAWS, there a few options that may
>>>>>> have some equivalent in WE.    Set so that screen text is echoed,  use
>>>>>> various cursors to  read the text in the window,  or set a frame around
>>>>>> the rx window  to speak received text with a hot key combo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you connected to the radio yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are starting to get down to some nuts and bolts stuff, feel free to
>>>>>> continue this off list if you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (my call)@snip.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/18/2015 7:59 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi, Steve.  Connected the SignalLink to the PC and followed the
>>>>>>> instructions on the miniCD that came with the unit.  Went into MMTTY,
>>>>>>> tried to "play" one of the files, and got nothing but the sound of
>>>>>>> RTTY over my PC's speakers.  HMMMM.  Also, assume the button on lower
>>>>>>> left is the power switch for the board?  Thanks.--Matt, N1IBB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 05:51 PM 7/17/2015 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nice to have a friend.   I may get one one of these days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Really doesn't matter which  way is up I guess.   Mine
>> doesn't have
>>>>>>>> any sort of tag, but I always used it with the button on the
>> left side.
>>>>>>>>         They recommend setting knobs at mid point for
>> starters.   If the
>>>>>>>> button is on the left, the knobs all point at 12 o'clock when  at mid
>>>>>>>> point.   At least on mine, the  knobs and their pointers  seem more
>>>>>>>> intuitive  with the button to the left. .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the jumper installed,  you should probably connect to the pc and
>>>>>>>> see if anything blows up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>>>> On 7/17/2015 5:24 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hey, Steve.  The jumper block's already installed; a friend at HRO
>>>>>>>>> whom I've known for years did it for me, bless him.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, which is right-side up: the side with the tag, or the side
>>>>>>>>> without?--Matt, N1IBB.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At 05:04 PM 7/17/2015 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The  extra audio cable isn't needed.  It's only for use if
>> your radio
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't have   another way of getting audio to the unit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Be sure you are holding it right side up.   Just from
>>>> memory, I thought
>>>>>>>>>> the  push button was in the lower left corner and not the
>> upper right
>>>>>>>>>> corner.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>        you will need to install the jumper block on the header
>>>>>> before you do
>>>>>>>>>> anything else.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/17/2015 4:40 PM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, Steve.  the toy has arrived.  It's a Signal USB 6PM.  It came
>>>>>>>>>>> with three cables:  a USB, A DIN TO RJ45 cable, and a 3.5mm patch
>>>>>>>>>>> cord.  The rear panel has the two connectors, plus a few female
>>>>>>>>>>> connections.  The front panel has a pushbutton in the upper
>>>>>>>>>>> righthand corner, and three knobs in a row with
>> pointers.  Understand
>>>>>>>>>>> where the two thicker cables go, but what about the patch cord?
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, are the installation instructions on the CD?  Would
>> like to do
>>>>>>>>>>> as much of the install as possible, as my YL is technically
>>>>>>>>>>> challlenged, hi, hi.  Thanks in advance.--Matt, N1IBB.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:13 AM 7/17/2015 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK  Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you don't have enough to read, be sure to  read about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> data mode selection of the 480 and  how to set the DSP  filtering
>>>>>>>>>>>> for data mode.    There is similar filtering in the 590, but  I
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't do it this way so I'm not familiar with it's use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You would want to toggle your mode selection until you hear "L D"
>>>>>>>>>>>> meaning lsb data.  Menu 45 toggles data filtering on and off, but
>>>>>>>>>>>> you will have to read up on this  to figure it all out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/17/2015 9:32 AM, Matthew Chao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Steve.  Thanks much.  The main page is a bit daunting,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed.  However, I will follow your suggestion and review these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> articles.  The new toy is scheduled to arrive sometime
>>>>>>>>>>>>> today.--Matt, N1IBB.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 08:13 AM 7/17/2015 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple of days ago you said you couldn't make anything out of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hamradioandvision.com site I had suggested.    Since MMTTY
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is one of the programs you seem interested in, I've cherry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> picked 2  articles on that software from the site:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hamradioandvision.com/mmtty-accessibility-vision/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hamradioandvision.com/mmtty-text-to-speech/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure there is  anything particular to Digipan on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site, but maybe if you dig deep enough you will find something.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a lot of good info on the site for blind hams, but  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think the main page can be confusing.    You will also find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> references to  software that will give  options other than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MMTTY and Digipan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Once you get your feet wet, go back to the site and poke
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around. Things that seem odd today may make sense later on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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