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-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:34 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT

well, all I can say is be more stubborn than the cancer. A lot of what I =
learned, especially from a close uncle who had cancer is this: a = positive
mental attitude and proper living always help. Just the PMA = alone can add
years (in the case of one aunt, about 25 years). She poked = fun at that
doctor for a quarter of a century.=20

ANyway, keep up that humor and don't give in.
-eric

On Jun 21, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Alan R. Downing wrote:

> The most likely source of the cancer that is in my lungs is my =
prostate
> cancer.  When I was originally diagnosed with prostate cancer in =
September
> of 2008, it had already spread into my lymph system.  I underwent a =
wide
> excision prostatectomy, 2 months of daily radiation treatment, some =
chemo,
> and more other treatments that I can't even recall now.  That cancer, 
> =
as
> well as the cancer now in my lungs, is adno carcinoma.  My point is, =
the
> cancer in my lungs has spread from my lymph system into my lungs.  =
Though it
> sounds odd, I don't have lung cancer, I have cancer in my lungs.  It =
is
> enough to make ones head spin, Hi.
>=20
> Alan - N7MIT
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:27 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>=20
> hmmm.
> I see that old argument again. In the case of my family (both sides of 
>=
=3D
> it): those who smoked ended up with cancer 99% of the time and always 
> =
=3D
> passed before age 65. Those who did not (and the family records reveal 
> =
=3D
> this) often did not develop any cancer and had lifespans in excess of 
> =
95 =3D
> years. Statistically speaking, this proves one point. Now, here I am =
50 =3D
> years old and I do get the biannual checkup for this (as a result of 
> =3D=

> family history) and I show absolutely no signs of any cancer or =3D  
>precancerous issues. Mind you, this is probably only a small sample =3D  
>statistical analysis, but it does prove that smoking is a major =3D  
>contributor to cancer. Now, this might not be true for the entire =3D  
>population, but it does point to a correlation between smoking and =3D  
>cancer.
>=20
> anyway, enough of that old argument. Since Alan's doctors have caught 
>=
it =3D
> in the early stages, there is hope that it can be removed or =
mitigated.
>=20
> -eric
>=20
> On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dave Allen wrote:
>=20
>> Hi Colin!
>> =3D20
>> There sure are lots of possibilities there that could contribute.
>> =3D20
>> I have a friend right now who has done all the most healthy things =
all =3D
> her
>> life, but cnacer has been detected in her liver, which isn't as =3D
> promising as
>> Alan's prognosis seems. No one deserves it; that is certain.
>> =3D20
>> 73,
>> Dave
>> =3D20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
>> Sent: Monday, 22 June 2015 8:37 a.m.
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>> =3D20
>> And even more interesting is how many people do you know that smoked 
>> =
=3D
> for
>> decades and never got lung or throat or any kkind of cancer?
>> I'm not totally convinced that smoking causes lung cancer...though it 
>> =
=3D
> is
>> somewhat unhealthy.
>> If smoking causes cancer, then shouldn't every smoker get it =3D
> eventually?
>> And if non-smokers get lung cancer then what causes it...I think we, 
>> =
=3D
> as a
>> society conclude, erroniously that smoking cigarettes causes =3D
> cancer...it can
>> I think, but it isn't like you will automatically get it, or, if you 
>> =
=3D
> are an
>> x smoker, and get cancer, that it was the smoking that caused it.
>> And the whole concept of second hand smoke is also one of those =3D
> erronious
>> assumptions touted by media.  I expect diet and chemical laced =3D
> environment
>> have a whole lot more to do with cancer than smoking or inhailing =3D
> second
>> hand smoke does.
>> If you look at countries like say Greece...the highest smoking rate 
>> =3D=

> among
>> adults in the world...something like 80 percent of adults smoke.  =
Yet, =3D
> they
>> consistently, as a country, rate among the healthiest population in 
>> =3D=

> the
>> world.  Why? diet and environment.
>> America has the highest cancer rates in the world...why? Diet and 
>> environment.
>> China has one of the highest rates of smoking for a countries =3D
> population as
>> well...yet cancer rates are no where near what they are per capita in 
>> =
=3D
> the
>> US.
>> Anyway, I say all this because I see people jumping to the conclusion 
>> =
=3D
> that
>> you must have smoked or been around allot of smokers if you get lung 
>> cancer...there are lots and lots of chemicals and environmental =3D
> conditions
>> that, if exposed to over years, can cause it far more surely than =3D
> smoking
>> might.
>> The problem of course is that we are exposed to far too many of these 
>> =
=3D
> things
>> so it's impossible to point at any cause...it just happens and I'm =
not =3D
> sure
>> anything we do in our lives can really prevent it.
>> And it really sucks when it happens to anyone.
>> =3D20
>> Hang in there Alan and posative thoughts are coming your way from the 
>> =
=3D
> great
>> white north.
>> =3D20
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:32 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>> =3D20
>> It's not the first time I've heard of that though. I have another =3D
> couple
>> friends who have had lung and throat cancers commonly associated with 
>> smoking though they never have in their lives. It's just a strange 
>> =3D
> thing.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 1:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>> =3D20
>> =3D20
>>> I have never smoked in my life, so it is kind of odd thatI got =
cancer =3D
> in my
>>> lungs.
>>> =3D20
>>> Alan - N7MIT
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Alan R. Downing
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:51 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>>> =3D20
>>> ouch! I had a relative that passed away from that specific cancer. =
He =3D
> =3D3D
>>> probably would still be alive if the VA hadn't misdiagnosed it as =
=3D3D
>>> emphysema. Alan caught it early, so the chances are fairly good.
>>> =3D20
>>> -eric
>>> =3D20
>>> On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> I have been corresponding back  and forth with our friend Alan 
>>>> =3D3D
>>> (N7MIT),
>>>> regarding various issues pertaining to learning the I phone, and I 
>>>> =
=3D3D=3D
>=20
>>> requested
>>>> an update on his latest health concerns.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> Unfortunately, the news is not very good.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> Alan has given me permission to share the news with the group.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> To quote Alan himself:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> "I got very bad news yesterday regarding my lung biopsy.  I have 
>>>> =3D
> adno
>>>> carcinoma in both lungs, and have been referred to a specialist =
that =3D
> =3D3D
>>> deals
>>>> with cancer of the lung.  It sounds pretty bad, but I will fight 
>>>> =3D
> it."
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> Let's all continue to keep Alan in our thoughts and prayers.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20=3D20