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Wed, 6 May 2015 16:05:44 -0400
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Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me think about it.
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Harvey, I think the latter.  Unless the community of the deaf has changed 
dramatically.  When I was an hr specialist with the Postal Service, one of 
the programs I was in charge of was communications between a fairly large 
contingency of deaf letter sorting machine operators and postal management 
with regard to operational and hr related subjects.  Our interpreter always 
used sign language.  She told me that lip reading is prone to much 
misunderstanding, especially with words which are similar in shape but have 
completely different meanings.  An example;  The Seinfeld episode where lip 
reading causes nothing but misunderstandings all round.  There is a big 
difference between six, and sex. The shape of the lips and tongue are the 
same.  Get it wrong by lip reading and...

Chuck wa8vmo
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From: "Harvey Heagy" <harvey.heagy@COX
NET>
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 2:43 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me 
think about it.

> That's something I've always wondered; if the opponents of sign language 
> are
> primarily of the hearing impaired community, or outside that community who
> work in it claiming to know what's best for them.
> Harvey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Chuck Lester
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:13 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me
> think about it.
>
> Harvey,
>
> Just like those who can hear and see to tell both those who can''t hear or
> see the best way.  I mean after all, they have all five senses, who could
> argue with that.  Of course, this completely discounts the human brain and
> the other guy/gal's need to cope with the real environment. To take away a
> usable tool, just because, you don't think I need it, is absolutely silly.
> It sounds so political. Besides, I don't want to teach sign language. 
> And,
> I don't want to teach Braille.  That mentality runs congress.
>
> Chuck wa8vmo

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