I agree with Brad, Matt.  Also, you should point your friend to the
Institute for Creation Research.  They have some great stuff on the reality
of what frauds scientists have put on with no evidence and how the real
story is much different and totally in line with the Bible.  Bottom line,
though, is that none of that really matters and keeps us away from what's
really important, JESUS.  We must always start with JESUS and keep people on
that subject.  Dinosaurs won't save you.  The flood won't save you.  Those
are the kinds of arguments that Paul talked about that only led away from
what's really important.

What matters is JESUS, His Life, Death and Resurrection on our behalf.  All
the rest is just silly stuff.

Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "B Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: biblical questions


> Mat,
>
> Funny how people ask about dinosaurs and care less if God talks about
> sharks, blackbirds or anything else he created. Not meaning you as an
> inquisitive state I think we all asked that one at one time or another,
> seeking answers to the obvious questions, but those as you mention who try
> to dispute the truth of God's word through science. I don't know that
> making mention of dinosaurs was high on God's list to example his
> personality and message, but it is your lucky day... he actually did
> mention them... Some dispute these accounts as alligators or crocs, but I
> find that pretty difficult to see as will likely you after you read...
>
> Job 40:14-
> God's Power Shown in Creatures
>
> 15 "Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like
> an ox. 16 "Behold now, his strength in his loins And his power in the
> muscles of his belly. 17 "He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of
his
> thighs are knit together. 18 "His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are
> like bars of iron.
>
> 19 "He is the first of the ways of God; Let his maker bring near his
sword.
> 20 "Surely the mountains bring him food, And all the beasts of the field
> play there. 21 "Under the lotus plants he lies down, In the covert of the
> reeds and the marsh. 22 "The lotus plants cover him with shade; The
willows
> of the brook surround him. 23 "If a river rages, he is not alarmed; He is
> confident, though the Jordan rushes to his mouth. 24 "Can anyone capture
> him when he is on watch, With barbs can anyone pierce his nose?
>
> Job 41
>
> 41:1 God's Power Shown in Creatures
>
>
> "Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook? Or press down his tongue with
> a cord? 2 "Can you put a rope in his nose Or pierce his jaw with a hook? 3
> "Will he make many supplications to you, Or will he speak to you soft
> words? 4 "Will he make a covenant with you? Will you take him for a
servant
> forever? 5 "Will you play with him as with a bird, Or will you bind him
for
> your maidens? 6 "Will the traders bargain over him? Will they divide him
> among the merchants? 7 "Can you fill his skin with harpoons, Or his head
> with fishing spears? 8 "Lay your hand on him; Remember the battle; you
will
> not do it again! 9 "Behold, your expectation is false; Will you be laid
low
> even at the sight of him? 10 "No one is so fierce that he dares to arouse
> him; Who then is he that can stand before Me? 11 "Who has given to Me that
> I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine.
>
> 12 "I will not keep silence concerning his limbs, Or his mighty strength,
> or his orderly frame. 13 "Who can strip off his outer armor? Who can come
> within his double mail? 14 "Who can open the doors of his face? Around his
> teeth there is terror. 15 "His strong scales are his pride, Shut up as
with
> a tight seal. 16 "One is so near to another That no air can come between
> them. 17 "They are joined one to another; They clasp each other and cannot
> be separated. 18 "His sneezes flash forth light, And his eyes are like the
> eyelids of the morning. 19 "Out of his mouth go burning torches; Sparks of
> fire leap forth. 20 "Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth As from a
boiling
> pot and burning rushes. 21 "His breath kindles coals, And a flame goes
> forth from his mouth. 22 "In his neck lodges strength, And dismay leaps
> before him. 23 "The folds of his flesh are joined together, Firm on him
and
> immovable. 24 "His heart is as hard as a stone, Even as hard as a lower
> millstone. 25 "When he raises himself up, the mighty fear; Because of the
> crashing they are bewildered. 26 "The sword that reaches him cannot avail,
> Nor the spear, the dart or the javelin. 27 "He regards iron as straw,
> Bronze as rotten wood. 28 "The arrow cannot make him flee; Slingstones are
> turned into stubble for him. 29 "Clubs are regarded as stubble; He laughs
> at the rattling of the javelin. 30 "His underparts are like sharp
> potsherds; He spreads out like a threshing sledge on the mire. 31 "He
makes
> the depths boil like a pot; He makes the sea like a jar of ointment. 32
> "Behind him he makes a wake to shine; One would think the deep to be
> gray-haired. 33 "Nothing on earth is like him, One made without fear. 34
> "He looks on everything that is high; He is king over all the sons of
> pride."
>
> As for your question regarding Jesus and the flood. Jesus Christ as we
know
> him, the man who was also Son of God, came after the flood. The Son of God
> however, who became flesh, that being Jesus,  according to John's gospel,
> was always... was the word, is the word and will always be the word. You
> can read that in John 1:1 and more.
>
> As far as saving water creatures? Well evidently Mattel felt the need to
> make sure the fish were accounted for in the flood and put them in a
barrel
> in the ark eh? lol. Obviously they fared just fine on their won swimming
> where ever they wish, as wel as any other sea creatures, snails, starfish
> and whatever.
>
> I'm not sure golden streets is mentioned in the Bible? Hmm good question.
> You are right though, monetarily it means nothing to God, other than how
it
> might relate to us as a sacrifice to him. Perhaps someone else has a
better
> idea on that one.
>
> Brad