hmmm.
I see that old argument again. In the case of my family (both sides of it): those who smoked ended up with cancer 99% of the time and always passed before age 65. Those who did not (and the family records reveal this) often did not develop any cancer and had lifespans in excess of 95 years. Statistically speaking, this proves one point. Now, here I am 50 years old and I do get the biannual checkup for this (as a result of family history) and I show absolutely no signs of any cancer or precancerous issues. Mind you, this is probably only a small sample statistical analysis, but it does prove that smoking is a major contributor to cancer. Now, this might not be true for the entire population, but it does point to a correlation between smoking and cancer.
anyway, enough of that old argument. Since Alan's doctors have caught it in the early stages, there is hope that it can be removed or mitigated.
-eric
On Jun 21, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dave Allen wrote:
> Hi Colin!
>
> There sure are lots of possibilities there that could contribute.
>
> I have a friend right now who has done all the most healthy things all her
> life, but cnacer has been detected in her liver, which isn't as promising as
> Alan's prognosis seems. No one deserves it; that is certain.
>
> 73,
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
> Sent: Monday, 22 June 2015 8:37 a.m.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>
> And even more interesting is how many people do you know that smoked for
> decades and never got lung or throat or any kkind of cancer?
> I'm not totally convinced that smoking causes lung cancer...though it is
> somewhat unhealthy.
> If smoking causes cancer, then shouldn't every smoker get it eventually?
> And if non-smokers get lung cancer then what causes it...I think we, as a
> society conclude, erroniously that smoking cigarettes causes cancer...it can
> I think, but it isn't like you will automatically get it, or, if you are an
> x smoker, and get cancer, that it was the smoking that caused it.
> And the whole concept of second hand smoke is also one of those erronious
> assumptions touted by media. I expect diet and chemical laced environment
> have a whole lot more to do with cancer than smoking or inhailing second
> hand smoke does.
> If you look at countries like say Greece...the highest smoking rate among
> adults in the world...something like 80 percent of adults smoke. Yet, they
> consistently, as a country, rate among the healthiest population in the
> world. Why? diet and environment.
> America has the highest cancer rates in the world...why? Diet and
> environment.
> China has one of the highest rates of smoking for a countries population as
> well...yet cancer rates are no where near what they are per capita in the
> US.
> Anyway, I say all this because I see people jumping to the conclusion that
> you must have smoked or been around allot of smokers if you get lung
> cancer...there are lots and lots of chemicals and environmental conditions
> that, if exposed to over years, can cause it far more surely than smoking
> might.
> The problem of course is that we are exposed to far too many of these things
> so it's impossible to point at any cause...it just happens and I'm not sure
> anything we do in our lives can really prevent it.
> And it really sucks when it happens to anyone.
>
> Hang in there Alan and posative thoughts are coming your way from the great
> white north.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Miller
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:32 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>
> It's not the first time I've heard of that though. I have another couple
> friends who have had lung and throat cancers commonly associated with
> smoking though they never have in their lives. It's just a strange thing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 1:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>
>
>> I have never smoked in my life, so it is kind of odd thatI got cancer in my
>> lungs.
>>
>> Alan - N7MIT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
>> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:51 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Health Update On Our Friend Alan, N7MIT
>>
>> ouch! I had a relative that passed away from that specific cancer. He =
>> probably would still be alive if the VA hadn't misdiagnosed it as =
>> emphysema. Alan caught it early, so the chances are fairly good.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
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>>> Unfortunately, the news is not very good.
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>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
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