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Angel,

After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in the 
book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are superior to 
everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology.  But you aren't 
going to do that, are you?  You are going to keep running down everyone else 
who has read it as being gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called 
Bible believers.  I still say you are just simply afraid to read it because 
you would rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture itself even 
when Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.

Phil.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's 
astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.


>I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just can't 
>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to believe in 
>some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints are interceding 
>for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly are with us on earth 
>watching over us with our personal angels.  They being the cloud of 
>witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily accept something 
>they read from a book shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel itself?  It seems 
>to me, protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from almost 
>anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are almost as bad as those who 
>believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When Saint Paul didn't even recount 
>what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would have at least raved 
>about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If he saw him.  Because, we know he 
>suffered from the guilt over the part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw 
>him in heaven.  Why should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly 
>experiences.  When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles must 
>be verified as having been done by that Saint.  It is those recounting from 
>such Saints as Paul and John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly 
>accounts.  I ask, what is the litmus test to which you all have put this 
>recounting from this young man whom no one on the list knows personally? 
>Now I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't real experiences.  I 
>am just saying why I don't believe they should be taken at face value. 
>Only God knows whether those experiences weren't hallucinations.  My late 
>husband suffered from a load of those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real 
>to him. I know what they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's 
> astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>
>
>> Hi All,
>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>> compassion.
>> Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to 
>> encourage us.
>> I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>> people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>> We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>> Blessings,
>> Donna
>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>> experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book 
>>> and
>>> I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by 
>>> Scripture
>>> from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some of your 
>>> most
>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
> 

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