During my years at The Ohio State School For The Blind, I was a medium
parcial. I didn't have good enough sight to read large type print. So, I had
to learn braille. I often wished that I had good enough sight to read large
type. Fifteen years ago, I lost my medium parcial sight and became a total.
Thank goodness that I already knew braille and didn't have to learn it at
age 48. Whoever said that parcials should be made to learn braille is
abslutely right. I thought that I'd have sight for all of my life. I don't
have it now. But I do know braille. 73. Doug, N6NFF
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Lester
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 2:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me
think about it.
There are those who would agree about the ohio sign when it comes to
visiting the dentist.
Chuck wa8vmo
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From: "Pat Byrne" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 4:36 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me
think about it.
> There are even regional differences in sign language. The sign for
> "dentist" is universal except in the state of Ohio where it
> coloquially means "a-hole". That from a family friend who is a
> licensed A S L interpreter. So be careful when looking for dental
> care in Ohio!!
> PatAt 03:05 PM 5/6/2015, you wrote:
>>Harvey, I think the latter. Unless the community of the deaf has changed
>>dramatically. When I was an hr specialist with the Postal Service, one of
>>the programs I was in charge of was communications between a fairly large
>>contingency of deaf letter sorting machine operators and postal management
>>with regard to operational and hr related subjects. Our interpreter
>>always
>>used sign language. She told me that lip reading is prone to much
>>misunderstanding, especially with words which are similar in shape but
>>have
>>completely different meanings. An example; The Seinfeld episode where
>>lip
>>reading causes nothing but misunderstandings all round. There is a big
>>difference between six, and sex. The shape of the lips and tongue are the
>>same. Get it wrong by lip reading and...
>>
>>Chuck wa8vmo
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>>From: "Harvey Heagy" <harvey.heagy@COX
>>NET>
>>Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 2:43 PM
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me
>>think about it.
>>
>> > That's something I've always wondered; if the opponents of sign
>> > language
>> > are
>> > primarily of the hearing impaired community, or outside that community
>> > who
>> > work in it claiming to know what's best for them.
>> > Harvey
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: For blind ham radio operators
>> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> > On Behalf Of Chuck Lester
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2015 11:13 AM
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject: Re: absolutely nothing to do with ham radio but Dayton made me
>> > think about it.
>> >
>> > Harvey,
>> >
>> > Just like those who can hear and see to tell both those who can''t hear
>> > or
>> > see the best way. I mean after all, they have all five senses, who
>> > could
>> > argue with that. Of course, this completely discounts the human brain
>> > and
>> > the other guy/gal's need to cope with the real environment. To take
>> > away a
>> > usable tool, just because, you don't think I need it, is absolutely
>> > silly.
>> > It sounds so political. Besides, I don't want to teach sign language.
>> > And,
>> > I don't want to teach Braille. That mentality runs congress.
>> >
>> > Chuck wa8vmo
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