I sure do, and when you drove that in to a Johnson Killowatt, it was and
still is fantastic!!!
I liked my valiant better on CW than my apachee, so I used the apachee and
sb10 as the vfo and sideband generator.  I took the sb10 output and drove
the valiant's amplifier with it.
That gave me around 300 watts class input for the amplifier.  With 6146
tubes and a class a-b-1 amplifier, who knows what my PEP was.
Probably about the same 300 watts.
You couldn't move 5 KHZ with out adjusting something.
All I had to dip the final was my ear on the valiant's case.


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:33 PM
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Subject: Re: phasing vs. filter exciters

Guess there wasn't a lot of audio processing going on.  Phasing out the
unwanted sideband and nulling the carrier, leaving the audio pretty
untouched.  Remember how good a Johnson Ranger and D104 sounded?
Pat, K9JAUAt 05:47 PM 4/1/2015, you wrote:
>They sure did. On those rare occasions when I could get one tuned in 
>properly on my Halicrafters S38, they sounded just like AM. At least 
>until the receiver drifted up or down. Usually took 3 to 5 seconds. 
>Man, they were broad and touchy. A friend of mine had the Apache and 
>SB10 conbination and had to renull the carrier before every 
>transmission. Great memories. 73. Lou WA3MIX Lou Kolb Voice-over 
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike Keithley" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:18 PM
>Subject: Re: phasing vs. filter exciters
>
>
> > The phasing exciters had superb audio quality.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 1:39 pm
> > Subject: Re: phasing vs. filter exciters
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> The phasing exciters didn't have very good carrier suppression and 
> >> often the unwanted sideband was nearly as loud as the desired one.  
> >> What a difference fifty years makes!
> >> Pat, K9JAUAt 03:01 PM 4/1/2015, you wrote:
> >> >You are probably right, that waws a bit before my time.  I know my 
> >> >national ncx 200 tranceiver had a vfo that was same no matter what 
> >> >band you were on, they switched crystals.  40 and 15 actually 
> >> >tuned the opposite directions, very strange.  Swan, at least the 
> >> >ones I had, actually switched vfo frequencies when you changed 
> >> >bands.  No days, everything is locked to one master oscilator which is
way cool.
> >> >73
> >> >Butch
> >> >WA0VJR
> >> >Node 3148
> >> >Wallace, ks.