Part of this discussion did not appear on the Blind-hams list, so I am
forwarding it here, in case anyone becomes interested in working with N1MM
Plus for contest logging.
Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David W Wood
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 3:42 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
Subject: RE: N1MM+
Hi Lloyd
All this has been most helpful to me, and hopefully others on the list.
With JFW, insert+1 reads the top line of the screen stating the same
information as insert+T.
With any new software, I always take a first look at the menu with alt+F and
cursoring around. This I did with N1MM+ and found that the menu is not too
different from the classic version.
For spotting, I use a completely different program.
To edit a previous QSO, I found that pressing alt+tab takes me into a list
of previous QSO'S, then cursoring left and right takes me to the various
entry fields.
The really useful facility is that the user files are now separate to the
program files, and stored, by default, in the N1MM+ folder in "my
documents".
The CW message editor from the configuration drop down is not very JAWS
friendly, but it is possible to edit these .MC files with a text editor,
remote from N1MM, and saving them as a different file name, if required, for
other contests.
73
David W Wood
-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:11 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: N1MM+
You know you are in the logging screen when the title bar (insert-T for
JAWS) shows the rig's frequency and mode, radio name, and VFO. .
This is the window where I suggested you use the applications key (context
menu or shift-F10) to uncheck some of the information that clutters that
window. Not all of the pull-down menus can be reached by an alt-letter
combination; for some you need to arrow right or left from the Alt-C
configuration menu or Alt-T Tools, I think. Alt-H gives you screen-specific
help, not the whole Help menu. You can get to the Help menu by hitting
Alt-N (for the Window menu) then arrowing right and down. The help system
is in HTML on the web, and is heavy with hyperlinks and a good use of
headings. There are a number of screen shots which are not well described,
but the text is clear most of the time. It might be worthwhile to go
through the
keyboard help item and write everything down in Braille; I look at this list
but I have never brailled it out.
The log display screen has only a system menu (alt-space bar) and is
arranged in a grid. Window-Eyes can virtualize this, and I assume JAWS
could, also. I haven't figured out how to go from a QSO I see (which is
likely to be off the screen) and edit that QSO. I still use ctrl-Y, ctrl-A
or ctrl-Q for that function.
Each day you run the program you are likely to get a prompt to install the
newest version. You may have to do some Alt-Tabbing to get to the installer
screen, but it works as you would expect for a program installation. There
is a revised version almost every day.
73,
Lloyd Rasmussen, W3IUU, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David W Wood
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 7:35 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
Subject: RE: N1MM+
Hi Lloyd
Well, with a bit of help from a non-radio friend, I have managed to
communicate with the K3 and Winkey!
Now to take a look at the logging!
Currently though, my brain hurts!
73
David W Wood
-----Original Message-----
From: Lloyd Rasmussen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 12:28 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: N1MM+
No, I have not had sighted help with setup. But my N1MM setup has grown bit
by bit since I started using the program in 2006 when I did not have
anything that could be controlled by the program. I suppose I ought to try
doing a setup from scratch and see what's going on.
The main configuration screen is a tabbed dialog box which now has 9 tabs.
When you open it, you are in the first tab, called Hardware, and your cursor
is on a selection among SO1V, SO2V, and perhaps SO2R operation. Hitting Tab
a few times brings you through OK and Cancel to the top of the box, which is
the 9-position tab control. I think I reclassed that to be a tab control.
Some settings must be reached with the Tab key, and there are pull-down
menus for things like serial ports and which devices are connected to each.
You will probably need to use the mouse pointer to find the OK button when
you are finished making changes. It is a very busy screen, and I'm not sure
how to advise you to proceed. I assume you listened through Kelvin Marsh's
podcast series about N1MM and Window-Eyes; some parts of it may still apply.
Time for me to head to work. Perhaps we could go through a little of this
in a phone QSO on a weekend. I have never set up Skype here, but probably
should.
73,
Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David W Wood
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 3:14 AM
To: 'Lloyd Rasmussen'
Subject: RE: N1MM+
Hi Lloyd
The issue is that I haven't yet been able to get to a logging screen.
I am faltering on the initial setting up process.
From the sound of it, you had sighted help with this?
At the moment, I don't have that luxury from someone who knows about the
different types of element on a page.
BTW: a V.I. programmer friend had an interchange with tom a couple of years
ago which didn't result in even any simple changes to aid accessibility.
A great shame, as it is a fantastic program.
73
David W Wood
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Lloyd Rasmussen
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:29 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: N1MM+
I have been using N1MM+ since late July under Windows 7 64-bit. I control
an FT950 with it, and a Rotor EZ (Idiom Press) controller from its N1MMRotor
program. You need at least XP Service Pack 3 to run it, and probably should
have 2 GB or more of RAM. I am using it with Window-Eyes, now at version
9.0. I have not yet tried to set up telnet, spotting, PC-controlled keying
or digital modes.
For the main entry window, use the context menu key to remove as much
extraneous information as you can. If you have used Alt-N to open some
windows, you may need sighted help to close some of them, because the act of
moving the mouse pointer (JAWS cursor) to find a Close graphic may cause
focus to jump back into the entry window.
In my setup, the rotor control program occupies one window, a log of the
current contest occupies another, and the entry window is a third; all of
these are accessible with Alt-Tab.
Getting the correct field label information when you press the Tab key is a
recurring issue, as it was in earlier N1MM. In the entry window, I use the
Window-Eyes Field Label function on each field before starting a contest.
If you don't do this, the callsign field will always be called TESTFOO, and
the other fields will be labeled with a string of labels, and it will be the
same string as you repeatedly tap the Tab key until you have cycled around
to TESTFOO again. Once set up, your labels will stick unless some change in
the screen layout occurs.Even if a callsign has been worked before and you
have the correct information for him, you must press spacebar and Enter
before the contact is logged and you can move to the next QSO.
The configuration window where you enter station data, ports, keyers, etc.
also suffers from problems caused by you not being sure which field you are
entering data into. Some of the needed information is carried over when you
load an old-version database into the program. Also, an INI file is still
used to hold some of the configuration information.
Having said all these negative things, I have only worked with a sighted
person on this program once, and that was after successfully logging several
contests and W1AW/3 operations. I would not say that the program is less
accessible than previous versions, but the screens are definitely more
cluttered. A close-to-standard K1EL keyer is recommended if you are goign
to send CW with this program. Audio is handled differently, too, if you
have been using that functionality. If possible, I would encourage you to
work with N1MM+ and give us and the authors feedback.
If you have questions, hopefully I will answer them more promptly than this
one.
73,
Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: David W Wood
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 10:49 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: N1MM+
Hi All
Has anyone yet attempted to install this program?
I have, using JFW 14 on an XP Pro machine.
Although I successfully imported a database from the Classic version, and
installed the latest version of the software, I don't seem to get any
further with the setting it up.
Thoughts, hints, and guidance welcomed!
73
David W Wood
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