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Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 21 Nov 2014 09:09:58 -0800
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I don't carrier lever has any effect in ssb, alc depends on where your 
power is set.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Fri, 21 Nov 2014, Tom Behler wrote:

> So, Bob, where do you set your carrier level?
>
> Mine is at 30.
>
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Bob Tinney
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:45 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: TS590 Mic Gain and Compression Settings
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I also use RTTY and I used to run my carrier level higher before I had the
> ALC mod done as it increased the talk power of the 590, but now I can back
> the carrier level back down and the rig runs GREAT!  Now I know that the
> carrier level should have nothing to do with SSB, but it does effect the ALC
> readings that you get from a particular setting of the mike gain in SSB
> mode.
>
> Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]
>
> On 11/21/2014 8:08 AM, Tom Behler wrote:
>> Bob:
>>
>> What mode are you using when you take your ALC readings?
>>
>> Again, I use RTTY, because it gives me a constant carrier with which
>> to work.
>>
>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Bob Tinney
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:24 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: TS590 Mic Gain and Compression Settings
>>
>> My carrier level is set to 40 and I get an ALC reading of 12 to 14
>> with that setting.
>>
>> Bob, K8LR, [log in to unmask]
>>
>> On 11/20/2014 8:59 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
>>> Steve:
>>>
>>> Are you saying you set your carrier level at 10 or so?
>>>
>>> That seems rather low to me.
>>>
>>> I set mine around 30, which in RTTY mode, gives me a reading of 13 or
>>> 14 on the ALC.
>>>
>>> Perhaps I'm misinterpreting what you are saying here, so feel free to
>>> correct the errors of my thinking.
>>>
>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Steve Dresser
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 1:48 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: TS590 Mic Gain and Compression Settings
>>>
>>> Now that I think of it, I try to keep it somewhere around 10, which =
>>> diminishes the size of the ballpark.  I also listen to the monitor to
>>> = make sure the background noise level isn't too high.  That's more
>>> of an = issue with an MC80, which picks up lots of room noise.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 21:38
>>> Subject: Re: TS590 Mic Gain and Compression Settings
>>>
>>>
>>>> Steve,
>>>> =20
>>>> That's a pretty big ballpark.    I think there are 3 lines to =
>>> designate=20
>>>> the ALC range.    I would be curious to know how many pips of the =
>>> meter=20
>>>> to get to the bottom, middle, and top  marks.
>>>> =20
>>>> I'm sure there is a fair amount of leeway in all this.   For a lot of=20
>>>> folks, if someone tells them they are splattering, they turn it
>>>> down,=20  and if they say "I can't hear you", they turn it up.
>>>> =20
>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>> =20
>>>> On 11/19/2014 9:24 PM, Steve Dresser wrote:
>>>>> I always figure that if the ALC reading stays above 0 and doesn't
>>>>> go =
>>> to =3D
>>>>> "over", it's pretty much in the ball park.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=3D20
>>>>> From: "Steve Forst" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 20:57
>>>>> Subject: Re: TS590 Mic Gain and Compression Settings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> I almost always use some slight compression with the Gold Line.   =
>>> =3D
>>>>> About=3D20
>>>>>> 20 in and 25 out.    I try and keep the ALC down to just a few pips =
>>> on =3D
>>>>>> the meter.    I also prefer menu 29 for hard vs. soft compression =
>>> set =3D
>>>>> to=3D20
>>>>>> "S", although "H"  may help  when in that pile up for the rare one.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Mics and voices vary so much  that one size doesn't fit all.  You
>>>>>> =
>>> need =3D
>>>>>> to use the voice readout of the meter to get things  set up =
>>> right.=3D20
>>>>>> There is an "ALC range"  marked on the meter, but you would need
>>>>>> =3D
>>>>> sighted=3D20
>>>>>> help to hit it as there is no  voice indication  where it is.    =
>>> The=3D20
>>>>>> meter will say "zero" up to somewhere in the teens, then "over".
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> You also have bandwidth and EQ settings, so a lot to tweak with if
>>>>>> =
>>> you =3D
>>>>>> are so inclined.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> On 11/19/2014 8:25 PM, Tom Behler wrote:
>>>>>>> Mike:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use a Heil gold line, and set my mic gain at 50.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have never done much of anything significant with compression
>>>>>>> =3D
>>>>> settings, so
>>>>>>> won't be of much help there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Mike Duke, K5XU
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:08 PM
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Subject: TS590 Mic Gain and Compression Settings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realize that mic gain is largely dependent on specific
>>>>>>> microphone =
>>> =3D
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> voice characteristics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, if you are not running the stock mic, I would like an idea
>>>>>>> of =
>>> =3D
>>>>> where you
>>>>>>> have the mic gain and compression settings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using a Shure 444 with mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Mike Duke, K5XU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>

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