Thanks, Eric.

I appreciate your insights.

I'm in the process now of upgrading from Jaws 14 to Jaws 16 both at work and
here at home, so it will be interesting to see if AVG is any more accessible
with the new upgrade.  I doubt it, but will continue to hold out hope.


Tom Behler: KB8TYJ


-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:41 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Computer security: accessible Virus protection and malware
programs

I use jaws primarily. However, with AVG, I have found that NVDA might = work
better. I have seen a few of the update screen issues with JAWS 14. = I
haven't done a full on test with NVDA to see how accessible AVG is yet =
(haven't had a lot of time). so my statements need to be qualified after = a
more extensive look.

-eric

On Nov 26, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Tom Behler wrote:

> Eric:
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> I too am using AVG, but have had real accessibility issues with it.
>=20
> I constantly have trouble accessing update information, and enabling  
>updates.  Plus, when it does the updates, it creates all sorts of =
issues
> with Jaws when I am in the middle of doing other work.
>=20
> What screen reader are you using with AVG?
>=20
> Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Eric Oyen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Computer security: accessible Virus protection and =
malware
> programs
>=20
> AVAST? I had nothing but issues with their windows version. It got to 
>=
=3D the
> point where my machine was made unusable because it wouldn't =3D =
uninstall. It
> took going into safe mode with a sighted assistant and a =3D utility =
to remove
> it. their mac product is a lot better, but it doesn't =3D catch =
everything.
>=20
> ALso, given my recent experience with their phone tech support, I have 
>=
=3D no
> love lost for that product. they insisted on saying their product was 
> =
=3D not
> at fault, even after I documented the problems it caused.
>=20
> anyway, for OS X, you would have a lot better luck with ClamXav. for 
>=3D=

> Windows, use AVG.
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> -eric
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> On Nov 25, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Jim Shaffer wrote:
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>> I seem to remember a lot of folks on this list were using Avast =3D
> anti-virus.=3D20
>> I've switched to it, and it is sort of accessible, but could be much 
>> =
=3D
> better.=3D20
>> Some things speak, some don't.  I had Norton on here, and 
>> uninstalled=20=

>> =3D
> it,=3D20
>> because it was totally inaccessible.  I really don't understand why =
so=20
>> =3D
> many=3D20
>> packages are not accessible.  There's nothing inherrently graphical 
>> =3D=

> about=3D20
>> virus/spyware protection that I can think of.
>> --
>> Jim, KE5AL
>> -----Original Message-----=3D20
>> From: Dr. Ronald E. Milliman]\\`
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:34 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Computer security: accessible Virus protection and =3D
> malware=3D20
>> programs
>> =3D20
>> I appreciate everyone's recommendations regarding computer security 
>> =20=

>> programs. I've been using MS Security Essentials, but MS is no longer 
>> =
=20
>> supporting that program, and I feel I need to find a replacement. =3D
> There are
>> several good programs available, but very few of them are easily =3D
> accessible.
>> I was hoping someone here was familiar with Bit Defender, especially 
>> =
=3D
> the
>> free version. A fellow who works for me says it is a great program, 
>> =3D=

> but he
>> has recommended several other programs to me in the past with very =
few=20
>> =3D
> of
>> them being easily accessible! <lol> Obviously, he is fully sighted =
and=20
>> =3D
> all
>> of those icons and graphics that are not alt-tagged don't bother him!
>> =3D20
>> I'll check out some of the programs you all suggested and see how I 
>> =3D=

> like
>> them. Thanks again!!
>> =3D20
>> Ron, K8HSY=3D20
>> =3D20
>> =3D20
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