Steve, okay, yeah, I see your point, and I totally agree with you. I'm going
to make that change on my TS-590 today, basically swapping around the
configuration of my PFb and the button on my mic. Thanks for the suggestion.


Ron, K8HSY



-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Steve Forst
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:19 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Has anyone here ever built a project from QST?

OK Ron,

Sounds like you have everything set up like you want it.  For what it's
worth, I'll throw this out:

If you set menu 80 (pf b key -  the one above the number pad) to "202",
  you will get swr, alc, comp in and comp out readings while in TX.  You
would toggle meter function with *short* presses on the drv/meter key to the
left of the pf B key.
Then reassign one of your  up/down buttons to menu 201 to give S-meter in RX
and power out in TX.

Just a thought, everybody does what suits their needs.

73, Steve KW3A

On 10/23/2014 10:03 AM, Dr. Ronald E. Milliman wrote:
> Thanks, Steve, for the description and source information for the 
> device to add additional programmable functional buttons to our 
> TS-590s. I currently have PF1 programmed to use as a tuning button; by 
> depressing it, my power is dropped quite low allowing me to adjust my 
> external automatic tuner with low power to better protect my rig. My 
> PF2 button gives me a readout on the s-meter on receive and power out 
> on transmit, and then, I have one of the up/down buttons on my mic 
> reprogrammed to give me SWR readings. So, I can depress the PF1 key 
> and then, the button on my mic to give me my SWR in low power and to 
> allow me to fine tune my automatic antenna tuner. It works extremely 
> well. However, it would still be nice to have the additional PF buttons
like you have.
>
> Ron, K8HSY
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Forst
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 9:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Has anyone here ever built a project from QST?
>
> Ron,
>
> A schematic can be found  in the In Depth Manual for the 590 at 
> icanworkthisthing.com
>
>
> I didn't find it accessible, but  relied on the description Colin had 
> given of his project some years ago, as well as the  text part of the 
> In Depth Manual.
>
> Basically you are  grounding pins 3 and 4 on the microphone connector 
> to emulate the other pf keys available on a now discontinued hand mic.
> You would use  4 momentary push button switches to ground  the  pins:
>
> pin 3 grounded  via a switch  through a 100k resistor pin 3 grounded 
> via a switch through a 22k resistor pin 4 - same as above  using the 
> other 2 switches and resistors.
>
> You could also use 2 more switches to ground pins 3 and 4 without any
> resistor.   This carries out the "normal" function of pins 3 and 4
> (frequency up and down), but the 590  will allow you to remap these  
> as additional pf keys if you can live without the up/down stuff.
>
>
> So, including the 2 pf keys on the radio, you can wind up with a total 
> of 8 pf keys (including remapping the up and down buttons).
>
> Hope this helps, Steve KW3A
>
> On 10/22/2014 9:37 PM, Dr. Ron Milliman wrote:
>> Steve, I obviously missed something. Where is the schematic for this
> little
>> gadget you built that gives you several additional programmable 
>> function buttons for your TS-2000 or TS-590? I would like to build one
myself.
>>
>> Ron, K8HSY
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators 
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Steve Forst
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:18 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Has anyone here ever built a project from QST?
>>
>> Yes.  Grounding each pin direct gives the regular up and down functions.
>>     Grounding each pin through  the resistors gives the PF key functions.
>>
>> I put 6 switches on my box.  4 go to ground via the resistors, 
>> emulating
> the
>> extra pf keys, and the other 2 go direct giving the up and down
>> functions.    I usually have the menus set on these last 2 to  emulate
>> pf keys and use them for quick memory in and quick memory  recall.
>>
>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>
>> On 10/22/2014 2:03 PM, Butch Bussen wrote:
>>> I'm not sure I remember, but grounding up or down direct is one 
>>> function, and then through the 22k another and the 100 k another 
>>> function.  Do I have that right?
>>> 73
>>> Butch
>>> WA0VJR
>>> Node 3148
>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Steve Forst wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't have any real skill, but just took my time, and I was lucky 
>>>> enough to have everything I needed laying around,  so if it failed, 
>>>> no big deal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Originally (in the 2000 literature) the values were 2  each of 100k 
>>>> and
>>>> 47 k ohms.  In the 590's In Depth Manual, it was 2 each of 100k and 
>>>> 22k ohms.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure why the change, but I used 22k and it works on both the 
>>>> 590 and 2000.
>>>>
>>>> Since the whole thing is based on grounding 2 microphone pins 
>>>> through a higher or lower resistance to get a particular action, 
>>>> Perhaps it is just that the spread between the 2 sets of values is 
>>>> greater  with
>> 100k
>>>>     and 22k.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/2014 11:24 AM, Butch Bussen wrote:
>>>>> I wish I had the skill to build such a box.  Do you recall value 
>>>>> for the resisters?
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Butch
>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 22 Oct 2014, Steve Forst wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not from QST, but if you are in tinkering mode, an external box with
>>>>>> extra pf keys  is nice to have for the 590.    Colin from this list
> had
>>>>>> built one for his TS-2000  maybe 10 years ago, and I  did one 
>>>>>> about a year and a half ago.  Since both use the 8 pin round mic 
>>>>>> connector, it is interchangeable between the 2 radios.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While the 590 has 2 pf keys on it, it is always nice to have more.
>>>>>> When you set up the pf keys to give voice announcements  in TX 
>>>>>> like swr, comp, and alc, it kind of uses up the 2 keys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A couple of momentary push button switches, microphone in and 
>>>>>> out, and some resistors, and you are in business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, if you have a mic with up/down buttons (even the stock hand
>>>>>> mic) and can do without the up/down function, the 590 lets you 
>>>>>> reassign them to act as pf keys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck with the new radio.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Steve KW3A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/21/2014 6:56 PM, Mike Duke, K5XU wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm just curious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have applied a few of the Hints and Kinks through the years, 
>>>>>>> and I own a Tuna Tin 2 that someone else built.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, I have just recently bought the steel tape measure in 
>>>>>>> order to build the vertical from the August, 2014 issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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