What are some good antennasThat would work on 80-10 meters. Maybe that's too wide of spectrum. I don't know how antennas work, :-)
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> On Oct 10, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Any antenna within reason will work with almost any modern
> transceiver. So the short answer is yes. Still have to consider the
> efficiency of the antenna, and so on as list members have been
> telling you. From everuthing I hear, the TS590 is a great rig.
> patAt 05:49 PM 10/10/2014, you wrote:
>> I'm leaning towards the 590S. What antennas or whatnot would work with this r=
>> ig? Would "ham sticks" work with this radio?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 5:24 PM, Pat Byrne <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> =20
>>> Joe,
>>> =46rom the description of the antenna I personally wouldn't care to=20
>>> deal with it. There appear to be two variables; the length of the=20
>>> antenna, and the loading coil which seems to be adjustable. Over=20
>>> time you would find ways to be able to quickly adjust the antenna to=20
>>> a particular frequency, which will be necessary for proper operation,=20
>>> but there would be a hell of a lot of trial and error before you=20
>>> reached that point. You would need a way to tell if the antenna was=20
>>> resonant, probably an audible SWR meter, a visual meter if your=20
>>> vision permits, or a pair of willing eyes. I know I wouldn't=20
>>> personally have the patience to make it work!
>>> If you have a balcony, the dipole configured hamsticks are a good one=20
>>> band solution. And a person could have multiple sets of hamsticks=20
>>> for multiple bands. A random length of wire thrown over a balcony=20
>>> railing is an option along with an automatic antenna tuner. Perhaps=20
>>> inefficient but workable. I had a friend who had a couple of dipoles=20
>>> in the attic of the townhouse complex where he lived and alleged to=20
>>> have worked a decent amount of DX with them.
>>> So you have lots of options - decide which band or bands you are=20
>>> interested in and what kind of transceiver you want or have. Does it=20
>>> have an onboard antenna tuner. If not, that should go on your wish list.
>>> We'll help you through this!!
>>> pat, K9JAUAt 04:13 PM 10/10/2014, you wrote:
>>>> So do y'all think that this antenna would be worth me buying? Or would it=
>> be=3D
>>>> too much of a pain to deal with?
>>>> Also why don't these Hf radios come with some sort of antennas?=3D20
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> =20
>>>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 3:17 PM, Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Ok, here's the antenna Joe's talking about:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> The MFJ-1622 Apartment Antenna covers 40 through 2 Meters, mounts
>>>> outdoor t=3D
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>>>>> windows, balconies, railings, and works great indoors mounted
>> to desks,=3D=
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>>>>> tables, and bookshelves!
>>>>> This Apartment Antenna lets you operate 40 through 10 Meters on HF and 6=
>> a=3D
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>>>>> 2 Meters on VHF with a single antenna! Its universal mount/clamp
>>>> lets you=3D20=3D
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>>>>> easily attach it to window frames, balconies, and railings. It=20
>>>> also works=3D20=3D
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>>>>> great indoors mounted to a desk, table, or bookshelf. Its not a five ele=
>> me=3D
>>>> nt=3D20
>>>>> yagi, but youll work your share of exciting DX!
>>>>> The highly-efficient air wound bug catcher loading coil and
>>>> telescoping 5=3D20=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>> 1/2 foot radiator lets you really get out! The radiator collapses to 2 1=
>> /2=3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> feet for easy storage and carrying.
>>>>> It includes coax RF choke balun, coax feed line, counterpoise
>> wire and=3D=
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>>>>> safety rope. The operating frequency is adjusted by moving the wander le=
>> ad=3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> on the coil and adjusting the counterpoise for the best SWR.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> So, it sounds like it might be a bit of a pain to tune. I wonder if any=
>> on=3D
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>>>>> can comment on those magnetic loop antennas? I remember a
>>>> discussion of=3D20=3D
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>>>>> them several months ago on this list, but can't remember any specifics.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Another possibility is an antenna in the attic. Joe, does your
>>>> apartment=3D20=3D
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>>>>> building have an attic, and could you possibly put an antenna up there? =
>> I=3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> have an Alpha-delta 40 through 10 meter dipole in my attic, and
>>>> it works=3D20=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>> pretty well, even on 40 meters. It is 40 feet long, and just
>>>> fits in my=3D20=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>> attic.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim, KE5AL
>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D20
>>>>> From: Joe Quinn
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 11:17 AM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: HF antenna fun
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Mfj1622 apartment antenna, lest you see something better
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Jim Shaffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> I see a bunch of antennas here. Specifically, what antenna is it?
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D20
>>>>>> From: Joe Quinn
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 10:00 AM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: HF antenna fun
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Here's the link, tell me what you think=3D3D20
>>>>>> http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=3D3D3DMFJ-1622
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> On Oct 10, 2014, at 9:24 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> wrot=
>> e:=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> I didn't see a link to your antenna. Keep in mind, anything smaller
>>>>>>> is=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> a compromise antenna. Not to say it is bad, just be ware. A dummy
>>>>>>> load=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> will load up on all bands, but doesn't radiate worth a damn. I had
>>>>>>> one=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> of those b and w 160 through ten antennas, looked goot on swr meter,
>>>>>>> but=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> was a very poor performer. It is basicly a folded dipole, 50 foot or
>>>>>>> so=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> each side of center, right above the center insolator or balon is=3D3D=
>> 20
>>>>>>> another box which is actually a resister which is why it matched so=3D=
>> 3D20=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> well. I called it my dummy load with wires. I'd ask about putting=3D=
>> 3D20=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>> something up out side and go from there. Can you get any local hams
>>>>>>> or=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> club involved to lend you a hand to see what might be done?
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Oct=3D3D20
>>>>>>> 2014, Alan R. Downing wrote:
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Hello Joe, Don't get your hopes up too high for this indoor HF antenn=
>> a.=3D
>>>> =20
>>>>>>>> I=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> think that it is highly doubtful that an antenna that small can work
>>>>>>>> very=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> efficiently. In addition to poor performance, keep your eye open for=
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>>>>>>>> interference. When you transmit on this small antenna, you run the r=
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>>>>>>>> getting into all many of electronics, not only in your apartment, but=
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>>>>>>>> neighboring units. Keep us posted on how you do.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Alan/KD7GC
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joe Quinn
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:49 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: HF antenna fun
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> I found an antenna that will work inside my apartment. It says it'l=
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>>>>>>>> nybody have any ideas?=3D3D3D
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