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Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:12:14 -0700
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Modern texst?  What is wrong with plain text.  BTW, this equals stuff 
has been around long before your mac.  Been a problem for years  Why not 
just send a space instead of a hex value?
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


On Sat, 27 Sep 2014, Michael 
Thurman wrote:

> well You do not have a mac dumbs   so have no right to comment. More and =
> More of us do, and the fact that this trashed listserv can not handle it =
> is beyond disgusting.There is no excuse for not being able to handle any =
> modern text E mails.  I always love to hear what Buddy is talking about, =
> and since you obviously do not care because you are shoved p micros =
> haft=92s backside  just stay out of it.
> No wonder we can=92t get our rights protected as blind people or as =
> amateur operators with backward bullshit like that.
> Michael Thurman
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>
>> feel free to leave any time, I'm sure it'll be no imposition upon me.
>> =20
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:56 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>> =20
>>> oh my god   that message was completely unreadable. this its is =
> getting =3D
>>> worse I think for readability.   When are we just going to go =
> somewhere =3D
>>> else and away rom this deprecated piece of shit listserv?
>>> I ha better results and no trash back int he 90s on yahoo and it =
> always =3D
>>> worked.
>>> =20
>>> Michael Thurman
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Buddy Brannan <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>>> =20
>>>> People seem to love the Stand Scan, =3D
>>> but=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DA6well=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DA6it=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9=
> 9s =3D3D
>>>> made out of cardboard. Can=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D99t wanna like =
> that.=3D3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D94=3D3D20
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: 814-860-3194=3D3D20
>>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Colin McDonald =
> <[log in to unmask]> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> hey steve, just so as to not reinvent the wheel, and I know i can =
> =3D3D
>>>> google it,=3D3D20
>>>>> what is this scan stand you speak of?
>>>>> The concept did cross my mind when this thread first popped up but =
> I =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> didn't=3D3D20
>>>>> explore it further until you mentioned it just now.
>>>>> A brief explanation and perhaps a place to purchase such a =3D
>>> contraption =3D3D
>>>> would=3D3D20
>>>>> be helpful methinks.
>>>>> I was actually thinking of making my own, but again, reference the =
> =3D3D
>>>> wheel=3D3D20
>>>>> thing hi hi.
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:32 PM
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> First, I think the price is a bit on the extravagant side for an =3D=
>
>>> app.
>>>>>> Having said that, since it is a family sharable app I will be =
> buying =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> it.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> It will work on anything from an iPhone 4S up, but it works better =
> =3D
>>> on =3D3D
>>>> the=3D3D20
>>>>>> 5S
>>>>>> and the 6'es.  The 6S even though it has physical stabilization =
> does =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> not
>>>>>> give any real advantage over the 6 as far as how the KNFB Reader =
> =3D3D
>>>> performs.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Now, I have had good luck using my iPhone with other print =3D3D
>>>> recognition
>>>>>> software along with a scanstand.  Lighting is quite important for
>>>>>> recognition, but with a scanstand, it is possible to get =3D
>>> comparable=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> results
>>>>>> to a flatbed scanner; this is on software that is quite =
> inexpensive.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Now, paying twenty times more for the KNFB Reader will allow me to =
> =3D3D=3D
>>> =20
>>>> scan=3D3D20
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> more forgiveness as far as lighting and allow me to get the =3D3D
>>>> field-of-view
>>>>>> reports and to insure I have the phone level.  That is the biggest =
> =3D3D=3D
>>> =20
>>>> factor=3D3D20
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> think that blind people experience when using a hand scanner is =
> =3D3D
>>>> making=3D3D20
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> they don't have the document skewed; good spatial perception is =
> =3D3D
>>>> critical=3D3D20
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> achieving qualitative results.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> If you have an iPhone, use the split-tap method on the left of the =
> =3D3D=3D
>>> =20
>>>> screen=3D3D20
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> take a picture and on the right side of the screen for the =3D3D
>>>> field-of-view
>>>>>> report.  Split tapping isn't as likely to jostle the phone as=3D3D20=
>
>>>>>> double-tapping
>>>>>> would.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Steve, K8SP
>>>>>> Lansing, Pure Michigan=3D3D20=20
>
>

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