Hi,
I agree with you one-hundred percent.
People go blind now, they get everything, and we are totally onour own.
I could get sick when people ask me how it's wonderful how we have al these
things to use. I tell them if we want them, we have to buy them. They are
surprised, because they think we can ask and just get anything. Sure I'd
like to have more, but if I don't have the money, then I just do without.
I wouldn't want everything handed to me, no appreciation.
Carolyn Kj4vt
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From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:14 AM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
> This is a bunch of crap. I lost my sight due to bilateral Glaucoma when I
> was three. I have worked hard all of my life to buy what I have. I had
> to
> go out and find employment, and I had no one helping me to find it. I was
> the first person in my family to go to college, and that college was one
> of
> the finest in the world, MIT. I had to apply to MIT, and I did it on my
> own, with nothing more than a reader to assist with the application.
> While
> I was at MIT I never had one book that was accessible to me, except thru
> readers, and I paid the readers out of my own pocket. No silver platter
> was
> given to me, nor would I have wanted one. Personally I am sick and tired
> of
> some folks thinking that they deserve everything for nothing. I never got
> anything for nothing, and again, I wouldn't have wanted to.
>
> 73
> Alan
>
>
>
> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>
> Just a quick note.
> I wrote a long drawn out E mail reply to this message, but I decided to =
> just say this.
> Not everyone, or even the vast majority of us have the seemingly =
> inexhaustible disposable income you must have. You bought a radio that =
> costs 8 grand, have it=92s little brother, have amps and antennas =
> costing more than most of us make in a decade, ar obeying a brand new =
> top of the line phone and talking about an app that for most of us is a =
> significant investment like it should cost an order of magnitude more. =
> Those comments are frankly insensitive and ignorant. The rest of us who =
> did not come into money and hav been blind all our lives, and have not =
> had the silver platter of opportunities like you obviously have are more =
> concerned with putting food on the table. It never stops amazing me how =
> many rich people are in this hoby and think nothing of dropping $100000 =
> on a ham station. Then there are the rest of us who are the majority and =
> live in the real world where price tags do matter.
>
> I have an aging ts-2000 that is 14 years old and is dying. I will not be =
> able to replace it when it fails completely. The sub receiver is dead, =
> the vhf uhf receiver no longer has a preamp function I can =
> control,although the button still beeps. The molex plug in back needs =
> replacing as it failed and has partially melted due to overheating =
> because one of the contacts stopped working for a while. I can=92t just =
> go out and buy another radio to replace it. I have to live in a world =
> where I have to make decision s on which bill Ipay if I want to put food =
> on the table and make the house payment. I do not even have cable tv. y =
> girlfriend works 55 hours a week as a nanny and her income plus mine =
> barely covers the necessities most of the time.So I am not afraid to say =
> that talking like that, saying an app should costs $999 is disgusting. =
> Maybe with all of that unlimited income you apparently have you should =
> give out I tunes gift certificates to buy the ap for everyone here, or =
> part with some of those radios you probably have stacked collecting =
> dust.
>
> Michael Thurman
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Alan R. Downing <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> For what it does, I would say that $999 was cheap. $99 is giving it =
> away in
>> my book.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:16 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>=20
>> I hope they are going to offer a demo version, perhaps one that runs =
> for =3D
>> 15 mins per run or something like jaws does in demo mode, as i will =
> not =3D
>> buy another reading program without a good and real world test run, as =
> =3D
>> other packages have been unusable even with all the nice little fluffy =
> =3D
>> reviews., also besides profit, whys the ap so expensive. it would find =
> =3D
>> many more users if the price were cheaper, and they can=3D92t claim =3D
>> proprietary hardware, when it is all as mainstream asyoucan get.
>> Michael Thurman
>> [log in to unmask]
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly <[log in to unmask]> =3D
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> All:
>>> I=3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS release =
> has =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: the =
> =3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be including =
> =3D3D
>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding =
> support =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =
> generation =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts are =
> =3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =
> we=3D3D92ve =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and specs on =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D
>>> =3D
>> =
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D8&uo=3D3D3=
> D4&a=3D
>> t=3D3D3D=3D3D
>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D20
>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here. =3D3D
>>> =3D
>> =
> http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D
>> [log in to unmask]
>>> =3D20
>>> 73:
>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =3D
>> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras. I'm not sure =
> =3D3D
>>> about=3D3D20
>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running the =
> =3D3D
>>> KNFB=3D3D20
>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D20
>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i always =3D=
>
>> was
>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was the =
> =3D3D
>>> phone
>>>> part. Now, I'm confused.
>>>> 73
>>>> Butch
>>>> WA0VJR
>>>> Node 3148
>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and maybe =
> =3D3D
>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald <[log in to unmask]> =
> =3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone. It =
> is =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> every
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> as good as advertised. Yes, there is a learning curve. Some =
> =3D3D
>>> people =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment without =
> =3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> reading
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> onboard manual. They have had less success. There is a real =3D
>> good =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am wondering if =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone. Knowing Ray as I do, I =
> =3D
>> am =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments from =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> guys =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it. I am eligible for an upgrade to =
> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> either
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =3D
>> those. =3D3D
>>> Any
>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
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