Congratulations Alan!!!
Lets stop the sniffling bullshit here and get on with it!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Date sent: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 08:14:36 -0700
>Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>This is a bunch of crap. I lost my sight due to bilateral
Glaucoma when I
>was three. I have worked hard all of my life to buy what I have.
I had to
>go out and find employment, and I had no one helping me to find
it. I was
>the first person in my family to go to college, and that college
was one of
>the finest in the world, MIT. I had to apply to MIT, and I did
it on my
>own, with nothing more than a reader to assist with the
application. While
>I was at MIT I never had one book that was accessible to me,
except thru
>readers, and I paid the readers out of my own pocket. No silver
platter was
>given to me, nor would I have wanted one. Personally I am sick
and tired of
>some folks thinking that they deserve everything for nothing. I
never got
>anything for nothing, and again, I wouldn't have wanted to.
>73
>Alan
>Alan R. Downing
>Phoenix, AZ
>-----Original Message-----
>From: For blind ham radio operators
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:00 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>Just a quick note.
>I wrote a long drawn out E mail reply to this message, but I
decided to =
>just say this.
>Not everyone, or even the vast majority of us have the seemingly
=
>inexhaustible disposable income you must have. You bought a
radio that =
>costs 8 grand, have it=92s little brother, have amps and antennas
=
>costing more than most of us make in a decade, ar obeying a brand
new =
>top of the line phone and talking about an app that for most of
us is a =
>significant investment like it should cost an order of magnitude
more. =
>Those comments are frankly insensitive and ignorant. The rest of
us who =
>did not come into money and hav been blind all our lives, and
have not =
>had the silver platter of opportunities like you obviously have
are more =
>concerned with putting food on the table. It never stops amazing
me how =
>many rich people are in this hoby and think nothing of dropping
$100000 =
>on a ham station. Then there are the rest of us who are the
majority and =
>live in the real world where price tags do matter.
>I have an aging ts-2000 that is 14 years old and is dying. I
will not be =
>able to replace it when it fails completely. The sub receiver is
dead, =
>the vhf uhf receiver no longer has a preamp function I can =
>control,although the button still beeps. The molex plug in back
needs =
>replacing as it failed and has partially melted due to
overheating =
>because one of the contacts stopped working for a while. I
can=92t just =
>go out and buy another radio to replace it. I have to live in a
world =
>where I have to make decision s on which bill Ipay if I want to
put food =
>on the table and make the house payment. I do not even have
cable tv. y =
>girlfriend works 55 hours a week as a nanny and her income plus
mine =
>barely covers the necessities most of the time.So I am not afraid
to say =
>that talking like that, saying an app should costs $999 is
disgusting. =
>Maybe with all of that unlimited income you apparently have you
should =
>give out I tunes gift certificates to buy the ap for everyone
here, or =
>part with some of those radios you probably have stacked
collecting =
>dust.
>Michael Thurman
>[log in to unmask]
>On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Alan R. Downing <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>> For what it does, I would say that $999 was cheap. $99 is
giving it =
>away in
>> my book.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:16 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>=20
>> I hope they are going to offer a demo version, perhaps one that
runs =
>for =3D
>> 15 mins per run or something like jaws does in demo mode, as i
will =
>not =3D
>> buy another reading program without a good and real world test
run, as =
>=3D
>> other packages have been unusable even with all the nice little
fluffy =
>=3D
>> reviews., also besides profit, whys the ap so expensive. it
would find =
>=3D
>> many more users if the price were cheaper, and they can=3D92t
claim =3D
>> proprietary hardware, when it is all as mainstream asyoucan get.
>> Michael Thurman
>> [log in to unmask]
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly
<[log in to unmask]> =3D
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> All:
>>> I=3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS
release =
>has =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices
include: the =
>=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be
including =
>=3D3D
>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding
=
>support =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =
>generation =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2.
Efforts are =
>=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS
8.
>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =
>we=3D3D92ve =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and
specs on =
>=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D
>>> =3D
>> =
>https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D8
&uo=3D3D3=
>D4&a=3D
>> t=3D3D3D=3D3D
>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D20
>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here.
=3D3D
>>> =3D
>> =
>http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstrati
on.mp3
>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D
>> [log in to unmask]
>>> =3D20
>>> 73:
>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]>
=3D
>> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras. I'm not
sure =
>=3D3D
>>> about=3D3D20
>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running
the =
>=3D3D
>>> KNFB=3D3D20
>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D20
>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i
always =3D=
>> was
>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was
the =
>=3D3D
>>> phone
>>>> part. Now, I'm confused.
>>>> 73
>>>> Butch
>>>> WA0VJR
>>>> Node 3148
>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and maybe
=
>=3D3D
>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald <[log in to unmask]>
=
>=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone. It =
>is =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> every
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>> as good as advertised. Yes, there is a learning curve. Some =
>=3D3D
>>> people =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment without
=
>=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> reading
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> onboard manual. They have had less success. There is a real
=3D
>> good =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am wondering if
=
>=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> anyone
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone. Knowing Ray as I do, I
=
>=3D
>> am =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments from
=
>=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> guys =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it. I am eligible for an upgrade to
=
>=3D
>> =3D3D
>>> either
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =3D
>> those. =3D3D
>>> Any
>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D20
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