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Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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I agree! there needs to be a lite version or a trial version for such an expensive non refundable purchase.
Michael Thurman
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On Sep 24, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> and when you say braving the new frontier you mean paying the non-refundable 
> $99 to try it out and just hope it works right?
> Since unlike almost every single IOS app out there, the KNFB reader does not 
> have a free trial of any kind to insure that the app works on your device 
> correctly before purchasing the fully functional version.
> I'd like to know that this works on my 5C with IOS7.11, but I'm definitely 
> not going to pay 99 bucks to find out it doesn't work well...
> My loss I know, but it's rediculous in this erra of free trial periods or 
> demo apps to ask for some one to pay fully for an app without insuring that 
> you like and will get use from the app before purchasing
> Unless I missed something about a refund of your purchase if the app doesn't 
> function correctly with your device?
> Sorry, I'm not being a negative nancy here, but every other serious app 
> developer out there offers their product on a trial basses first, most 
> especially the more expensive apps.
> And it means zero to me that this product with the simbian operating system 
> and nokia phone was $1700plus originally.
> 
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Hai Nguyen Ly" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:40 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
> 
>> Hi Martin:
>> We are planning on eventually supporting the iPads due to the popularity =
>> of these devices in the education space. Whereas the iPhones have great =
>> cameras and include a flash, all of the iPads have yet to gain a flash. =
>> I=92ve managed to get the app to function quite nicely on an iPad Mini =
>> with iOS 7.1.2. We would love your feedback should you decide to brave =
>> the iPad frontier with us.
>> 
>> 73:
>> Hai, KC1BLT
>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Martin G. McCormick =
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> What about an IPad running IOS7? Judging from the
>>> nomenclature and IOS version, an IPad seems like it should also
>>> be able to run KNFB Reader, but I would like to know first
>>> before finding out the hard way that it doesn't.
>>> =20
>>> Thank you.=20
>>> =20
>>> 73
>>> Martin
>>> Hai Nguyen Ly writes:
>>>> With this being said, the KNFB Reader app will function quite well on =
>> an =3D
>>>> iPod Touch 5th generation as long as you are running a variant of iOS =
>> 7. =3D
>>>> There are currently some issues being investigate with regard to UI =3D=
>> 
>>>> latency on this device running iOS 8. If you wish to install the app =
>> on =3D
>>>> an iPod 5th generation with iOS 7, I would not upgrade the device to =
>> iOS =3D
>>>> 8 until we release the update to fix the latency issues. Please use =
>> the =3D
>>>> following link to download the app. =3D
>>>> =
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D8&uo=3D3D4&a=
>> t=3D3D=3D
>>>> 10lJ8N
>>>> =20
>>>> 73:
>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>>> Mine says 7.11.  It says I can upgrade to 8.0 which I haven't done =3D=
>> 
>>>> yet.
>>>>> Are you saying I should not if I want the reader?
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Butch
>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> On=3D20
>>>>> Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> The easiest way to determine your iOS version is to navigate to =3D3D=
>> 
>>>>>> Settings/general/About.
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>> =3D3D
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> How can I tell which operating system I have on my Ipod?  I hope I =
>> =3D
>>>> can=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> get the link out all of those equals 20s.
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen=3D3D20
>>>>>>> Ly wrote:
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> All:
>>>>>>>> I=3D3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS =3D
>>>> release =3D3D
>>>>>> has =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: =
>> =3D
>>>> the =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be =
>> including =3D
>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding =
>> =3D3D
>>>>>> support =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =3D3D
>>>>>> generation =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts =
>> =3D
>>>> are =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>>>>>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =3D
>>>> we=3D3D3D92ve =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and =
>> specs =3D
>>>> on =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D
>>>> =
>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D3D8&uo=3D3=
>> D3D3=3D
>>>> D4&a=3D3D
>>>>>> t=3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here. =3D3D3D=
>> 
>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D
>>>> =
>> http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>>>>>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D3D
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>> =3D3D
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras.  I'm not =
>> sure =3D
>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> about=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running =
>> the =3D
>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> KNFB=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>>>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i =
>> always =3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was =
>> the =3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>>> part.  Now, I'm confused.
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and =
>> maybe =3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald =3D
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone.  =
>> It =3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> is =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as good as advertised.  Yes, there is a learning curve.  =
>> Some =3D
>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> people =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment =3D
>>>> without =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard manual.  They have had less success.  There is a =
>> real =3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>> good =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am =
>> wondering =3D
>>>> if =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone.  Knowing Ray as I =
>> do, =3D
>>>> I =3D3D
>>>>>> am =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments =
>> =3D
>>>> from =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> guys =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it.  I am eligible for an =
>> upgrade =3D
>>>> to =3D3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =
>> =3D3D
>>>>>> those. =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
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