Hi Group,
For those who say they are being forced to use their delete key too
often, are you saying that you keep every e-mail you ever receive? You
always have to use the delete key at some point--so why not when you see
a thread you don't like--just group your messages by conversation and
then hit the delete key. Just thought I'd add a bit of levity to the
whole bizarre mess <laugh>!
On 9/29/2014 7:23 PM, Steve Dresser wrote:
> Colin,
>
> Would it be fair to say that the solution to this problem is to just put =
> a lid on it?
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 17:59
> Subject: Re: The need for list moderation and control
>
>
>> really?
>> You are going to itemize everything people say, break it down line by =
> line=20
>> and rebut them? And, ironically, rebut them with your own opinions =
> and=20
>> strong points of view in very similar fashion to the very messages and =
>> posters you are refering to in said rebuttals.
>> You missed the boat. it has been made perfectly clear by the =
> moderator of=20
>> this group that expression is allowed on list, and we can go off topic =
> as=20
>> long as things are kept relatively blind related or can be tied back =
> to=20
>> something ham related which they generally can be...except for one=20
>> particular poster who insists upon posting messages about other =
> listers=20
>> behavior ahem.
>> Each list is different and repeatedly commenting on how you choose to =
> run=20
>> your lists is not relevant or helpful.
>> In point of fact, this entire thread is highly irrelevant and most =
> unhelpful=20
>> to anyone, so congradulations for being that guy who complains about=20
>> something, and yet is doing that very something as he's complaining =
> about=20
>> it.
>> You, sir, have been nominated for the 2014 Lid award.
>> See, there, I made it ham radio related.
>> =20
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Robert Ringwald" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 3:25 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: The need for list moderation and control
>> =20
>>> Jim Shaffer KE5AL wrote regarding moderating an email list:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've only seen one post on this list that I thought some folks might =
> =3D
>>> think
>>>
>>> needed moderating, and that doesn't constitute a need for list =3D
>>> moderation in
>>>
>>> my opinion. If someone is sending offensive posts, don't read that =
> =3D
>>> person's
>>>
>>> posts! It's as simple as that. =3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You do not know if the post is offensive unless you read it.=3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't want my posts to the list delayed
>>>
>>> until a moderator can look at them, just because some folks can't =
> handle =3D
>>> bad
>>>
>>> language or flames.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The posts do not have to be held up. When someone is using bad =
> language =3D
>>> or harassing someone else, the list moderator can just tell em to =
> knock =3D
>>> it off. Either the guilty party knocks it off, or gets put on =
> moderate =3D
>>> until he/she can conduct him or herself like a responsible =
> adult.=3D20
>>>
>>>
>>> I moderate an email list with 640 members from all over the world. By =
> =3D
>>> moderate, I do not mean I have to OK every post. I mean, all posts =
> are =3D
>>> automatically posted to the List as they are on this List. If someone =
> =3D
>>> gets out of hand, I tell em to stop. If they don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t, I =
> put them =3D
>>> on moderate until they can act civilized and treat other list members =
> =3D
>>> with respect.=3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are all ham radio operators. We are all in the hobby because we =
> enjoy =3D
>>> the hobby. We are a brotherhood. We don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t need to be =
> publically =3D
>>> insulting and harassing other ham radio operators.=3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What you want to do privately is your business. But when it is =
> public, =3D
>>> freedom stops where it impinges on other peoples freedom. This goes =
> for =3D
>>> freedom of expression or any other kind of freedom.=3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing that's really starting to bug me about this country is that =
> we
>>> seem to think that when something goes wrong, we need to pass a law =
> or =3D
>>> turn
>>>
>>> the problem over to some sort of government intervention. I guess =
> =3D
>>> that's
>>>
>>> why I've become a Libertarian.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Jim, KE5AL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Being a Libertarian does not mean that you throw all of your manners =
> and =3D
>>> respect for other people=3DE2=3D80=3D99s rights away.=3D20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> From: Michael Ryan
>>>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:51 PM
>>>
>>> To:
>>>
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Subject: The need for list moderation and control
>>>
>>> Hi all:=3D3D20
>>>
>>> I just read Howard's posting regarding someone to grow up, suck it up =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> and be thankful you got a radio and antennas and such.=3D3D20
>>>
>>> I haven't been really following the thread because, quite frankly, I =
> =3D3D
>>> wasn't interested in the constant postings regarding the iPhone and =
> =3D3D
>>> reader, or accessible transceivers and the like. Simply I really =
> didn't =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> have anything to add on the subject of the US tower and so on.=3D3D20
>>>
>>> I think though its time that the list owner get it together and start =
> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> moderating this list or turn it over to an individual or group who =
> can. =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> We don't need people offending each other on this list and we also =
> don't =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> need the constant non ham radio related subject which seems to be =
> =3D3D
>>> drowning the radio subject of this list. I posted some help to the =
> Yahoo =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> FT-102 user group when I 1ST got my rig and an individual in Hungry, =
> =3D3D
>>> who's well known in DX circles bashed the Hell out of me because I =
> was =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> explaining to another fellow lister my vision loss and the tools I =
> had =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> at my disposal to use the 102 and what I could see and what I =
> couldn't. =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> Well this well known DXer more or less proclaimed that I was someone, =
> A =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> using my blindness as a crutch and B, I was someone who had just =
> walked =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> into a lawn mowing store looking to buy the shoes off the salesmen's =
> =3D3D
>>> feet because they wouldn't sell me shoes. LOL=3D3D20
>>>
>>> That idiot was band from the list pronto. So I think its high time =
> that =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> someone or someones, start doing the same and get control of this =
> list. =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that all non HR related activity be band because =3D3D
>>>
>>> technology and situations can be used as guide lines to different =
> =3D3D
>>> aspects in our lives but it does need to be lidded somewhat.=3D3D20
>>>
>>> Just my thoughts, hope to catch some of you on the air this =3D
>>> weekend.=3D3D20
>>>
>>> 73:=3D3D20
>>>
>>> Mike VO1AX=3D3D20=20
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