That's how you know Italians didn't invent spaghetti, Brad, though everyone
thinks we did.  We would never invent anything so hard to eat.

Paolo
----- Original Message -----
From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Bike lost no one hurt


> You been to my house? How did you know I eat with my fingers? Spaghetti is
> messy and soup is worse so we rarely have that hehehehehehe.
>
> Brad
>
>
> At 12/22/2003 on Monday, you wrote:
> >You're right, Brad.  I think the LORD is always concerned about
motivation
> >but not so much concerned about the details.  For example, if the
motivation
> >for setting out the best silverware is because the intent is to instill
> >jealousy in the folks coming to dinner, that's an issue the LORD will
deal
> >with and a trip to the woodshed may be forthcoming.  But if there's no
> >ulterior motive in the selection, He just wants us to enjoy the dinner
and
> >get on with it, with silverware or plastic cutlery or fingers, whatever.
> >
> >Paul
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:23 PM
> >Subject: Re: Bike lost no one hurt
> >
> >
> > > Helen,
> > >
> > > I remember in my spiritual milk drinking days, I was getting some
counsel
> > > from a great brother in the Lord. He said he found it irritating when
> > > people would ask God stuff like which silverware to set out for dinner
> >with
> > > company and etc. lol. We are to seek God in what we do, but there are
some
> > > things I believe God could care less about.
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > At 12/22/2003 on Monday, you wrote:
> > > >Excellent post, Brad!
> > > >
> > > >Helen
> > > >
> > > >At 10:04 AM 12/22/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > > > >Mat,
> > > > >
> > > > >We live in a fallen world, in times where stuff just happens. Over
> > > > >Christianizing such happenings is probably as bad as the opposite,
that
> >of
> > > > >ignoring God's involvement in our lives at all. I wonder how God
feels
> > > > >getting the blame for work of the enemy? Isn't he, the enemy the
one
> >who
> > > > >came to kill, steal and destroy? That does not mean to ignore the
> >events
> > > > >and happenings in our life and not look for God's hand in it, but
> >things
> > > > >happen and mistakes happen, and we deal with them. I like your
> >scripture
> > > > >reference on shutting people up lol. Actually a scripture that
helps
> >me,
> > > > >and I am not sure of it's location right off, but says to the
effect...
> > > > >
> > > > >All things are turned for the good of those who believe in God.
Some
> > > > >translations say "who love God". If anyone knows where this is, let
me
> > > > >know. I ought have it memorized chapter and verse and verbatim, but
do
> >in
> > > > >gist of application.  This is sometimes mistaken for saying that
all
> >good
> > > > >things happen to those who believe, and if you are having
difficulties,
> > > > >then you don't believe enough... hogwash! That is not the point it
> >means.
> > > > >Point being that not all things we endure come from God, but they
are
> > > > >turned for the good of those who love and believe and trust in God.
> > > > >Sometimes that may mean just leaning on God for peace and strength
> >which is
> > > > >more valuable than the occurence or loss in the first place. I did
run
> > > > >across another scripture to help shut folks up if you like lol.
> > > > >
> > > > >1 Thess 4:11
> > > > >11 and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to
your
> >own
> > > > >business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you
> > > > >
> > > > >I'm sure they are meaning well and trying to give you hope, but
> >sometimes
> > > > >the transparency of those ideals are insulting more than
comforting.
> > > > >Biblical patronizing? Seems all would be able to see through those
> > > > >attempts, but I guess not. I'd rather deal with that fact I didn't
> >remove
> > > > >the canvas top, it caught some air, yanked the bike out the truck
and
> >boom!
> > > > >Rather than spiritualizing it and wondering if God is telling me
not to
> > > > >ride the bike? Will we get hurt? Will we hurt the baby? Were we
about
> >to
> > > > >get in an accident in that pick up truck, the old man isn't saved
yet,
> >and
> > > > >God whipped the bike off the truck to stop us? Was the pin striping
on
> > > > >crooked and so he trashed the bike so we ought get a new one? lol
What
> >is
> > > > >the great meaning behind this? Just as we can, without God in our
> >lives,
> > > > >run circular equations, never getting an answer, we can do this too
as
> >God
> > > > >being the brunt of that never ending loop. Sometimes we don't know
why
> > > > >things happen and just need to chalk it up to not knowing and that
God
> >will
> > > > >work it out in the end. In your quest of Christianity depth you
will
> >run
> > > > >across doom and gloomers and those with Santa Claus in the sky
> >attitudes
> > > > >looking to be blessed out of their socks with gifts and etc. So one
> >needs
> > > > >to keep that knowledge  in mind when being guided by others. If one
> > > > >lives  each day in prayer over such purchases and etc. one will
know
> > > > >already what to do according to God's prompting and no need to
second
> > > > >guess... as much lol I say as much because we sometimes miss it,
but
> >then
> > > > >we know that we know we did. Sounds good the body shop guy might be
> >able to
> > > > >fix it up some. That might be cheaper than buying a new one. Of
course
> >it
> > > > >ought be safe, but I'd think it could be so if not trampled
> >completely.
> > > > >
> > > > >Brad