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Michael Thurman <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:21:01 -0400
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when i am bashed to hell and back because I am sick of the same unreadable crap and told to just go away  hell yeah I will fight back in kind I am sick of self righteous people who thick they can rode rme around. so yeah  that is not the spirit of ham radio to tell someone to just go away
Michael Thurman
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On Sep 27, 2014, at 4:49 PM, Robert Ringwald <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>    Well . . . . This is certainly the spirit of ham radio.
> 
> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
> 
> 
> 
> From: Michael Thurman 
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:41 PM
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
> 
> well You do not have a mac dumbs   so have no right to comment. More and =
> More of us do, and the fact that this trashed listserv can not handle it =
> is beyond disgusting.There is no excuse for not being able to handle any =
> modern text E mails.  I always love to hear what Buddy is talking about, =
> and since you obviously do not care because you are shoved p micros =
> haft=92s backside  just stay out of it.
> No wonder we can=92t get our rights protected as blind people or as =
> amateur operators with backward bullshit like that.
> Michael Thurman
> [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
> 
>> feel free to leave any time, I'm sure it'll be no imposition upon me.
>> =20
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:56 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>> =20
>>> oh my god   that message was completely unreadable. this its is =
> getting =3D
>>> worse I think for readability.   When are we just going to go =
> somewhere =3D
>>> else and away rom this deprecated piece of shit listserv?
>>> I ha better results and no trash back int he 90s on yahoo and it =
> always =3D
>>> worked.
>>> =20
>>> Michael Thurman
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Buddy Brannan <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>>> =20
>>>> People seem to love the Stand Scan, =3D
>>> but=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DA6well=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DA6it=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9=
> 9s =3D3D
>>>> made out of cardboard. Can=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D99t wanna like =
> that.=3D3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D94=3D3D20
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: 814-860-3194=3D3D20
>>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Colin McDonald =
> <[log in to unmask]> =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> hey steve, just so as to not reinvent the wheel, and I know i can =
> =3D3D
>>>> google it,=3D3D20
>>>>> what is this scan stand you speak of?
>>>>> The concept did cross my mind when this thread first popped up but =
> I =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> didn't=3D3D20
>>>>> explore it further until you mentioned it just now.
>>>>> A brief explanation and perhaps a place to purchase such a =3D
>>> contraption =3D3D
>>>> would=3D3D20
>>>>> be helpful methinks.
>>>>> I was actually thinking of making my own, but again, reference the =
> =3D3D
>>>> wheel=3D3D20
>>>>> thing hi hi.
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:32 PM
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> First, I think the price is a bit on the extravagant side for an =3D=
> 
>>> app.
>>>>>> Having said that, since it is a family sharable app I will be =
> buying =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> it.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> It will work on anything from an iPhone 4S up, but it works better =
> =3D
>>> on =3D3D
>>>> the=3D3D20
>>>>>> 5S
>>>>>> and the 6'es.  The 6S even though it has physical stabilization =
> does =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>> not
>>>>>> give any real advantage over the 6 as far as how the KNFB Reader =
> =3D3D
>>>> performs.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Now, I have had good luck using my iPhone with other print =3D3D
>>>> recognition
>>>>>> software along with a scanstand.  Lighting is quite important for
>>>>>> recognition, but with a scanstand, it is possible to get =3D
>>> comparable=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> results
>>>>>> to a flatbed scanner; this is on software that is quite =
> inexpensive.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Now, paying twenty times more for the KNFB Reader will allow me to =
> =3D3D=3D
>>> =20
>>>> scan=3D3D20
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> more forgiveness as far as lighting and allow me to get the =3D3D
>>>> field-of-view
>>>>>> reports and to insure I have the phone level.  That is the biggest =
> =3D3D=3D
>>> =20
>>>> factor=3D3D20
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> think that blind people experience when using a hand scanner is =
> =3D3D
>>>> making=3D3D20
>>>>>> sure
>>>>>> they don't have the document skewed; good spatial perception is =
> =3D3D
>>>> critical=3D3D20
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> achieving qualitative results.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> If you have an iPhone, use the split-tap method on the left of the =
> =3D3D=3D
>>> =20
>>>> screen=3D3D20
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> take a picture and on the right side of the screen for the =3D3D
>>>> field-of-view
>>>>>> report.  Split tapping isn't as likely to jostle the phone as=3D3D20=
> 
>>>>>> double-tapping
>>>>>> would.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> Steve, K8SP
>>>>>> Lansing, Pure Michigan=3D3D20=20

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