I'm not sure I'm smart enough to get it running. I don't use my Ipod
for much, mostly baseball and weather and seri. I did put nls ap on
there, but find my other readers much easier for me. I never did figure
out itunes, but I wouldn't mind giving this reader a try, cheaper than
the new blaze ez.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, Gary Lee wrote:
> I too wish there were a demo, but if you are that concerned, just watch and
> wait.
> However, it will work on a 5c if it works on a 5.
> It does work on a 5, as I have it working right now.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:47 PM
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>
>
>> and you are bang on there Alan.
>> I couldn't agree more with that statement.
>> However, there is some serious doubt cast upon the apps functionality
>> given
>> different devices, and while $99 is more than worth it if the app is
>> valuable to you, it is nothing more than a rather extravagant waste of
>> resources if it is not functional, and totally functional without issues
>> for
>> that price.
>> The worth of something is how much a person values it and is willing to
>> pay
>> for it. Personally I would pay the $99 if I new there was no doubt as to
>> it's functionality, but we have heard that there are issue with IOS8, and
>> issues with phones other than the 5S or 6/6+ and with other IOS
>> devices...so
>> that tells me that there is a very real possibility that the app may not
>> function 100 per cent on my device and that is what I have an issue with
>> not
>> having the option to recoop my investment if the product does not meet the
>> value implicit in the purchase.
>> It's like anything else. If you buy a very expensive radio or amplifier
>> expecting it to work, and it gets to you and it doesn't work as
>> advertized,
>> or only has 10 per cent output do you just say, well, this is a very
>> powerful amplifier, and the builder is just trying his best to help out
>> the
>> average ham out there, so I'm not going to expect my money returned to me
>> for the unit because the potential is so high for it to be great. That
>> would be rediculous in the extreme right? So how is this app any
>> different
>> from that? Especially when hundreds of thousands of apps have a demo or
>> free trial version where you can make sure you like it firstly, and that
>> it
>> works for you secondly. This is a consumer market not a developer market.
>> 73
>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 5:28 PM
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>
>>> My only comment on this particular subject is that $99 is an incredible
>>> bargain for a powerful piece of software. The return on investment for
>>> this
>>> app is incredible if you ask me.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>> Alan R. Downing
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 4:17 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>
>>> and when you say braving the new frontier you mean paying the
>>> non-refundable
>>>
>>> $99 to try it out and just hope it works right?
>>> Since unlike almost every single IOS app out there, the KNFB reader does
>>> not
>>>
>>> have a free trial of any kind to insure that the app works on your device
>>> correctly before purchasing the fully functional version.
>>> I'd like to know that this works on my 5C with IOS7.11, but I'm
>>> definitely
>>> not going to pay 99 bucks to find out it doesn't work well...
>>> My loss I know, but it's rediculous in this erra of free trial periods or
>>> demo apps to ask for some one to pay fully for an app without insuring
>>> that
>>> you like and will get use from the app before purchasing
>>> Unless I missed something about a refund of your purchase if the app
>>> doesn't
>>>
>>> function correctly with your device?
>>> Sorry, I'm not being a negative nancy here, but every other serious app
>>> developer out there offers their product on a trial basses first, most
>>> especially the more expensive apps.
>>> And it means zero to me that this product with the simbian operating
>>> system
>>> and nokia phone was $1700plus originally.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Hai Nguyen Ly" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:40 PM
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>
>>>> Hi Martin:
>>>> We are planning on eventually supporting the iPads due to the popularity
>>>> =
>>>> of these devices in the education space. Whereas the iPhones have great
>>>> =
>>>> cameras and include a flash, all of the iPads have yet to gain a flash.
>>>> =
>>>> I=92ve managed to get the app to function quite nicely on an iPad Mini =
>>>> with iOS 7.1.2. We would love your feedback should you decide to brave =
>>>> the iPad frontier with us.
>>>>
>>>> 73:
>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Martin G. McCormick =
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What about an IPad running IOS7? Judging from the
>>>>> nomenclature and IOS version, an IPad seems like it should also
>>>>> be able to run KNFB Reader, but I would like to know first
>>>>> before finding out the hard way that it doesn't.
>>>>> =20
>>>>> Thank you.=20
>>>>> =20
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Martin
>>>>> Hai Nguyen Ly writes:
>>>>>> With this being said, the KNFB Reader app will function quite well on
>>>>>> =
>>>> an =3D
>>>>>> iPod Touch 5th generation as long as you are running a variant of iOS
>>>>>> =
>>>> 7. =3D
>>>>>> There are currently some issues being investigate with regard to UI
>>>>>> =3D=
>>>>
>>>>>> latency on this device running iOS 8. If you wish to install the app =
>>>> on =3D
>>>>>> an iPod 5th generation with iOS 7, I would not upgrade the device to =
>>>> iOS =3D
>>>>>> 8 until we release the update to fix the latency issues. Please use =
>>>> the =3D
>>>>>> following link to download the app. =3D
>>>>>> =
>>>>
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D8&uo=3D3D4&a=
>>>> t=3D3D=3D
>>>>>> 10lJ8N
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> =20
>>>>>>> Mine says 7.11. It says I can upgrade to 8.0 which I haven't done
>>>>>>> =3D=
>>>>
>>>>>> yet.
>>>>>>> Are you saying I should not if I want the reader?
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> On=3D20
>>>>>>> Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> The easiest way to determine your iOS version is to navigate to
>>>>>>>> =3D3D=
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Settings/general/About.
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> How can I tell which operating system I have on my Ipod? I hope I
>>>>>>>>> =
>>>> =3D
>>>>>> can=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>> get the link out all of those equals 20s.
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen=3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Ly wrote:
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> All:
>>>>>>>>>> I=3D3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS =3D
>>>>>> release =3D3D
>>>>>>>> has =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: =
>>>> =3D
>>>>>> the =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be =
>>>> including =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding =
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> support =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =3D3D
>>>>>>>> generation =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts =
>>>> =3D
>>>>>> are =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>>>>>>>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =3D
>>>>>> we=3D3D3D92ve =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and =
>>>> specs =3D
>>>>>> on =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D
>>>>>> =
>>>>
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D3D8&uo=3D3=
>>>> D3D3=3D
>>>>>> D4&a=3D3D
>>>>>>>> t=3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here.
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D=
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D
>>>>>> =
>>>> http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>>>>>>>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D3D
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras. I'm not =
>>>> sure =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>>> about=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running =
>>>> the =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>>>>> KNFB=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>>>>>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i =
>>>> always =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was =
>>>> the =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>>>>> part. Now, I'm confused.
>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and =
>>>> maybe =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald =3D
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone. =
>>>> It =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> is =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as good as advertised. Yes, there is a learning curve. =
>>>> Some =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> people =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment =3D
>>>>>> without =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard manual. They have had less success. There is a =
>>>> real =3D
>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> good =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am =
>>>> wondering =3D
>>>>>> if =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone. Knowing Ray as I =
>>>> do, =3D
>>>>>> I =3D3D
>>>>>>>> am =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments =
>>>> =3D
>>>>>> from =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> guys =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it. I am eligible for an =
>>>> upgrade =3D
>>>>>> to =3D3D
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =
>>>> =3D3D
>>>>>>>> those. =3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
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