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Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:17:03 -0600
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and when you say braving the new frontier you mean paying the non-refundable 
$99 to try it out and just hope it works right?
Since unlike almost every single IOS app out there, the KNFB reader does not 
have a free trial of any kind to insure that the app works on your device 
correctly before purchasing the fully functional version.
I'd like to know that this works on my 5C with IOS7.11, but I'm definitely 
not going to pay 99 bucks to find out it doesn't work well...
My loss I know, but it's rediculous in this erra of free trial periods or 
demo apps to ask for some one to pay fully for an app without insuring that 
you like and will get use from the app before purchasing
Unless I missed something about a refund of your purchase if the app doesn't 
function correctly with your device?
Sorry, I'm not being a negative nancy here, but every other serious app 
developer out there offers their product on a trial basses first, most 
especially the more expensive apps.
And it means zero to me that this product with the simbian operating system 
and nokia phone was $1700plus originally.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
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From: "Hai Nguyen Ly" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:40 PM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader

> Hi Martin:
> We are planning on eventually supporting the iPads due to the popularity =
> of these devices in the education space. Whereas the iPhones have great =
> cameras and include a flash, all of the iPads have yet to gain a flash. =
> I=92ve managed to get the app to function quite nicely on an iPad Mini =
> with iOS 7.1.2. We would love your feedback should you decide to brave =
> the iPad frontier with us.
>
> 73:
> Hai, KC1BLT
> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Martin G. McCormick =
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> What about an IPad running IOS7? Judging from the
>> nomenclature and IOS version, an IPad seems like it should also
>> be able to run KNFB Reader, but I would like to know first
>> before finding out the hard way that it doesn't.
>>=20
>> Thank you.=20
>>=20
>> 73
>> Martin
>> Hai Nguyen Ly writes:
>>> With this being said, the KNFB Reader app will function quite well on =
> an =3D
>>> iPod Touch 5th generation as long as you are running a variant of iOS =
> 7. =3D
>>> There are currently some issues being investigate with regard to UI =3D=
>
>>> latency on this device running iOS 8. If you wish to install the app =
> on =3D
>>> an iPod 5th generation with iOS 7, I would not upgrade the device to =
> iOS =3D
>>> 8 until we release the update to fix the latency issues. Please use =
> the =3D
>>> following link to download the app. =3D
>>> =
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D8&uo=3D3D4&a=
> t=3D3D=3D
>>> 10lJ8N
>>>=20
>>> 73:
>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 4:01 PM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Mine says 7.11.  It says I can upgrade to 8.0 which I haven't done =3D=
>
>>> yet.
>>>> Are you saying I should not if I want the reader?
>>>> 73
>>>> Butch
>>>> WA0VJR
>>>> Node 3148
>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>> =3D20
>>>> =3D20
>>>> On=3D20
>>>> Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:
>>>> =3D20
>>>>> The easiest way to determine your iOS version is to navigate to =3D3D=
>
>>>>> Settings/general/About.
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>> 73:
>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Butch Bussen <[log in to unmask]> =
> =3D3D
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> How can I tell which operating system I have on my Ipod?  I hope I =
> =3D
>>> can=3D3D20=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>> get the link out all of those equals 20s.
>>>>>> 73
>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014, Hai Nguyen=3D3D20
>>>>>> Ly wrote:
>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> All:
>>>>>>> I=3D3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS =3D
>>> release =3D3D
>>>>> has =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: =
> =3D
>>> the =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be =
> including =3D
>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding =
> =3D3D
>>>>> support =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =3D3D
>>>>> generation =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts =
> =3D
>>> are =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>>>>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =3D
>>> we=3D3D3D92ve =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and =
> specs =3D
>>> on =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> =3D
>>> =
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D3D8&uo=3D3=
> D3D3=3D
>>> D4&a=3D3D
>>>>> t=3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D
>>>>>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here. =3D3D3D=
>
>>>>>>> =3D3D
>>>>> =3D
>>> =
> http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>>>>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D3D
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>> 73:
>>>>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =
> =3D3D
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras.  I'm not =
> sure =3D
>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> about=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running =
> the =3D
>>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>>>> =3D20
>>>>>>> KNFB=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i =
> always =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was =
> the =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>> part.  Now, I'm confused.
>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and =
> maybe =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald =3D
>>> <[log in to unmask]> =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone.  =
> It =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>>> is =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>>>> as good as advertised.  Yes, there is a learning curve.  =
> Some =3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> people =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment =3D
>>> without =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> onboard manual.  They have had less success.  There is a =
> real =3D
>>> =3D3D
>>>>> good =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am =
> wondering =3D
>>> if =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone.  Knowing Ray as I =
> do, =3D
>>> I =3D3D
>>>>> am =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments =
> =3D
>>> from =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> guys =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it.  I am eligible for an =
> upgrade =3D
>>> to =3D3D
>>>>> =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =
> =3D3D
>>>>> those. =3D3D3D
>>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
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