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Alan R. Downing
Phoenix, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:31 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
there are a lot of peole who were =93guided=94 into carers that at the =
time seems to be lucrative. Look at all the people who went into IT and =
now th demand for it has dropped substantially. Not everyone had good =
guidance, or a foreknowledge of changes in careers. Ou world has change =
a great deal since people like you were looking for work or choosing =
careers, and to blame someone for taking a path that is nt as good as it =
looked when they started is total bullshit. i tis easy to say oh it=92s =
their fault when you are sitting on more income than most of us see in a =
lifetime. Saying comments like that just makes you out to be an arrogant =
ass.
Michael Thurman
[log in to unmask]
On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Alan R. Downing <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> What I would like to know is this, what kind of careers did these =
folks who
> complain about having nothing, get an education for? That is, did =
they pick
> an education path that would lead to a good high paying job? If you =
don't
> choose an education that would lead to a good job, then you have no =
one to
> blame but yourself.
>=20
> Alan
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> Alan R. Downing
> Phoenix, AZ
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> On Behalf Of carolyn johnson
> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:08 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>=20
> Hi,
> I agree with you one-hundred percent.
> People go blind now, they get everything, and we are totally onour =
own.
> I could get sick when people ask me how it's wonderful how we have al =
these=20
> things to use. I tell them if we want them, we have to buy them. They =
are=20
> surprised, because they think we can ask and just get anything. Sure =
I'd=20
> like to have more, but if I don't have the money, then I just do =
without.
> I wouldn't want everything handed to me, no appreciation.
>=20
> Carolyn Kj4vt
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>=20
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Alan R. Downing" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 11:14 AM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>=20
>> This is a bunch of crap. I lost my sight due to bilateral Glaucoma =
when I
>> was three. I have worked hard all of my life to buy what I have. I =
had=20
>> to
>> go out and find employment, and I had no one helping me to find it. =
I was
>> the first person in my family to go to college, and that college was =
one=20
>> of
>> the finest in the world, MIT. I had to apply to MIT, and I did it on =
my
>> own, with nothing more than a reader to assist with the application.=20=
>> While
>> I was at MIT I never had one book that was accessible to me, except =
thru
>> readers, and I paid the readers out of my own pocket. No silver =
platter=20
>> was
>> given to me, nor would I have wanted one. Personally I am sick and =
tired=20
>> of
>> some folks thinking that they deserve everything for nothing. I =
never got
>> anything for nothing, and again, I wouldn't have wanted to.
>>=20
>> 73
>> Alan
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Alan R. Downing
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>=20
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: For blind ham radio operators =
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 8:00 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>=20
>> Just a quick note.
>> I wrote a long drawn out E mail reply to this message, but I decided =
to =3D
>> just say this.
>> Not everyone, or even the vast majority of us have the seemingly =3D
>> inexhaustible disposable income you must have. You bought a radio =
that =3D
>> costs 8 grand, have it=3D92s little brother, have amps and antennas =3D=
>> costing more than most of us make in a decade, ar obeying a brand new =
=3D
>> top of the line phone and talking about an app that for most of us is =
a =3D
>> significant investment like it should cost an order of magnitude =
more. =3D
>> Those comments are frankly insensitive and ignorant. The rest of us =
who =3D
>> did not come into money and hav been blind all our lives, and have =
not =3D
>> had the silver platter of opportunities like you obviously have are =
more =3D
>> concerned with putting food on the table. It never stops amazing me =
how =3D
>> many rich people are in this hoby and think nothing of dropping =
$100000 =3D
>> on a ham station. Then there are the rest of us who are the majority =
and =3D
>> live in the real world where price tags do matter.
>>=20
>> I have an aging ts-2000 that is 14 years old and is dying. I will not =
be =3D
>> able to replace it when it fails completely. The sub receiver is =
dead, =3D
>> the vhf uhf receiver no longer has a preamp function I can =3D
>> control,although the button still beeps. The molex plug in back needs =
=3D
>> replacing as it failed and has partially melted due to overheating =3D
>> because one of the contacts stopped working for a while. I can=3D92t =
just =3D
>> go out and buy another radio to replace it. I have to live in a world =
=3D
>> where I have to make decision s on which bill Ipay if I want to put =
food =3D
>> on the table and make the house payment. I do not even have cable =
tv. y =3D
>> girlfriend works 55 hours a week as a nanny and her income plus mine =
=3D
>> barely covers the necessities most of the time.So I am not afraid to =
say =3D
>> that talking like that, saying an app should costs $999 is =
disgusting. =3D
>> Maybe with all of that unlimited income you apparently have you =
should =3D
>> give out I tunes gift certificates to buy the ap for everyone here, =
or =3D
>> part with some of those radios you probably have stacked collecting =3D=
>> dust.
>>=20
>> Michael Thurman
>> [log in to unmask]
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 AM, Alan R. Downing <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>=20
>>> For what it does, I would say that $999 was cheap. $99 is giving it =
=3D
>> away in
>>> my book.
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> Alan R. Downing
>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>> =3D20
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On Behalf Of Michael Thurman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:16 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>> =3D20
>>> I hope they are going to offer a demo version, perhaps one that runs =
=3D
>> for =3D3D
>>> 15 mins per run or something like jaws does in demo mode, as i will =
=3D
>> not =3D3D
>>> buy another reading program without a good and real world test run, =
as =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> other packages have been unusable even with all the nice little =
fluffy =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> reviews., also besides profit, whys the ap so expensive. it would =
find =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> many more users if the price were cheaper, and they can=3D3D92t =
claim =3D3D
>>> proprietary hardware, when it is all as mainstream asyoucan get.
>>> Michael Thurman
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> On Sep 24, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly <[log in to unmask]> =
=3D3D
>>> wrote:
>>> =3D20
>>>> All:
>>>> I=3D3D3D92m happy to hear that the news of the KNFB Reader iOS =
release =3D
>> has =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> reached this list. At the moment, the supported devices include: =
the =3D
>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>> =3D20
>>>> iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6, 5s, 5c, and iPhone 5. We will be including =
=3D
>> =3D3D3D
>>>> support for additional iDevices in the coming weeks. Regarding =3D
>> support =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> for the iPod Touch, the app functions quite well on the 5th =3D
>> generation =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> of this device as long as it is still running iOS 7.1.2. Efforts =
are =3D
>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>> =3D20
>>>> currently under way to optimize support for this device on iOS 8.
>>>> We truly feel that the KNFB Reader is the best mobile reader =3D
>> we=3D3D3D92ve =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> ever created. Please feel free to check out the features and specs =
on =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> knfbreader.com as well as the iTunes page at: =3D3D3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>> =3D
>>=20
> =
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knfbreader/id849732663?mt=3D3D3D3D8&uo=3D3=
D3D3=3D
>> D4&a=3D3D
>>> t=3D3D3D3D=3D3D3D
>>>> 10lJ8N=3D3D3D20
>>>> An audio demonstration of the app in use is available here. =3D3D3D
>>>> =3D3D
>>> =3D
>> =
http://www.knfbreader.com/media/demo/audio/KNFBReader_Demonstration.mp3
>>>> I am available to answer any questions off-list at: =3D3D
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> 73:
>>>> Hai, KC1BLT
>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 10:50 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen <[log in to unmask]> =
=3D3D
>>> wrote:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> The newer iPods have front- and rear-facing cameras. I'm not sure =
=3D
>> =3D3D3D
>>>> about=3D3D3D20
>>>>> their specs, though, and have not yet heard of someone running the =
=3D
>> =3D3D3D
>>>> KNFB=3D3D3D20
>>>>> reader on such an iPod.
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
>>>>> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
>>>>> -----Original Message-----=3D3D3D20
>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> I don't know for sure, but was told my ipod has a camera, i always =
=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> was
>>>>> lead to believe only difference between it and an i phone was the =
=3D
>> =3D3D3D
>>>> phone
>>>>> part. Now, I'm confused.
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Butch
>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Howard, W A 9 Y B W wrote:
>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>> It would not work on the iPods as they don't have a camera.
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>> Howard #3, W A 9 Y B W
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jim Shaffer" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:44 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> I don't think it works with any IPOD, just the IPhone and maybe =
=3D
>> =3D3D3D
>>>> IPad, I'm
>>>>>>> not sure.
>>>>>>> Here's a link to the source, http://www.knfbreader.com/.
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Butch Bussen
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:00 PM
>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> Will it work with an Ipod 5?
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>> Butch
>>>>>>> WA0VJR
>>>>>>> Node 3148
>>>>>>> Wallace, ks.
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2014, Anthony Vece wrote:
>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> $99.
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 23, 2014, at 1:09 PM, Robert Ringwald =
<[log in to unmask]> =3D
>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>> =3D20
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> What is the cost of this reader?
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> -Bob Ringwald K6YBV
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> From: Bob Ray=3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:04 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Yes, my wife has purchased the KNFB reader for the iphone. It =
=3D
>> is =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> every
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>> as good as advertised. Yes, there is a learning curve. Some =
=3D
>> =3D3D3D
>>>> people =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> decided that they should change settings and experiment =
without =3D
>> =3D3D3D=3D3D
>>> =3D20
>>>> reading
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> onboard manual. They have had less success. There is a real =
=3D3D
>>> good =3D3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>> out on applevis too.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Bob KD0BR
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: For blind ham radio operators =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 10:13 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> I may have missed conversation about this, but I am wondering =
if =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> bought the Kurzweil app for the Iphone. Knowing Ray as I do, =
I =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> am =3D3D3D
>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> betting
>>>>>>>>> that the app is a real killer, but I'd like to see comments =
from =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> guys =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> have actual experience with it. I am eligible for an upgrade =
to =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> =3D3D3D
>>>> either
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Iphone 6 or 6+ with 128 Gigs, so I will probably get one of =
=3D3D
>>> those. =3D3D3D
>>>> Any
>>>>>>>>> comments pro or con would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Alan R. Downing
>>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>>> Phoenix, AZ
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
>>>>>> =3D3D3D20
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