I am not God, so, I have earned the right to be confusing because I am
human. I, at least, am not confused. If you aren't we are both unconfused.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: Just read the book
> Which faith? That which comes from your church or my church; your words
> are confusing and God doesn't bring confusion.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 7:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>
>
>> Though we each are Christian, we do not share the same Faith. Which is
>> probably appreciated by us both.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 9:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>
>>
>>> Which faith would that be; yours or mine?
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am not free to interpret scripture. My Faith forbids private
>>>>interpretation of scripture. I never said you are a liar. I am not
>>>>free to judge that either. As our Lord forbids such judgments. I am
>>>>free, however, not to believe what you believe, and you are free to do
>>>>the same regarding me and my beliefs. If we each believed the same
>>>>things we would be of the same Faith.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 8:12 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Angel,
>>>>>
>>>>> So, since we don't agree on doctrinal positions and interpretation of
>>>>> some Scriptures, am I a liar because it doesn't follow the
>>>>> interpretation of the Catholic church or you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Just read the book
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I will not read the book. For the reasons I previously stated. Many
>>>>>>in this world have different beliefs than do I about all sorts of
>>>>>>things from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to Joseph Smith.
>>>>>>All claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural accuracy. Each of
>>>>>>whom have flawed reasoning, in my opinion. Of course you are free, as
>>>>>>you have done, to disagree with me on everything. That is your right.
>>>>>>About which I wouldn't gainsay you. I dare say, I need not have to
>>>>>>know about the experiences of others regarding either heaven or hell.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>> Shall be having my own experiences in good time. So why should I
>>>>>> care to read about those of others? When such are so personal, and
>>>>>> can be so easily contrived by others to make a dollar or
>>>>>> lion. ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Just read the book
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angel,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used
>>>>>>> in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are
>>>>>>> superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and
>>>>>>> theology. But you aren't going to do that, are you? You are going
>>>>>>> to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being
>>>>>>> gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible believers. I
>>>>>>> still say you are just simply afraid to read it because you would
>>>>>>> rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture itself even when
>>>>>>> Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>>>>> boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am not angry,, I apologize if it seems that I am,. I just can't
>>>>>>>>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to
>>>>>>>>believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the
>>>>>>>>Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they
>>>>>>>>constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our personal
>>>>>>>>angels. They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul
>>>>>>>>spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a book
>>>>>>>>shelf. Almost as if it were gospel itself? It seems to me,
>>>>>>>>protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from almost
>>>>>>>>anyone who claims it to be true. Some are almost as bad as those
>>>>>>>>who believe the shroud of Turin is real. When Saint Paul didn't
>>>>>>>>even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would
>>>>>>>>have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there. If he saw
>>>>>>>>him. Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he
>>>>>>>>played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven. Why should I
>>>>>>>>believe any modern recounts of heavenly experiences. When, in order
>>>>>>>>for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as having
>>>>>>>>been done by that Saint. It is those recounting from such Saints as
>>>>>>>>Paul and John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly accounts.
>>>>>>>>I ask, what is the litmus test to which you all have put this
>>>>>>>>recounting from this young man whom no one on the list knows
>>>>>>>>personally? Now I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't
>>>>>>>>real experiences. I am just saying why I don't believe they should
>>>>>>>>be taken at face value. Only God knows whether those experiences
>>>>>>>>weren't hallucinations. My late husband suffered from a load of
>>>>>>>>those. Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what they
>>>>>>>>were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little
>>>>>>>> boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>>>> I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too. My first reaction
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>>>>>> compassion.
>>>>>>>>> Any book that talks about miracles should be weighed against
>>>>>>>>> scripture,
>>>>>>>>> but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant to
>>>>>>>>> encourage us.
>>>>>>>>> I haven't walked on water, or raised the dead, but God has saved
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have
>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>> people to salvation, which is what really matters.
>>>>>>>>> We'll know the book by it's fruit. Angel, I'm sorry you seem so
>>>>>>>>> angry.
>>>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this
>>>>>>>>>> miraculous
>>>>>>>>>> experience. I get the feeling you don't want to read this little
>>>>>>>>>> book and
>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering why. Why do you want to argue what you believe
>>>>>>>>>> when you
>>>>>>>>>> haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by
>>>>>>>>>> Scripture
>>>>>>>>>> from beginning to end. Are you worried it might challenge some
>>>>>>>>>> of your most
>>>>>>>>>> closely held beliefs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Phil.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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