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You know now, I am happier than ever your bronchitis is better.  I hope your 
health continues to improve, and your husband is also feeling better than he 
had felt in the past.  I know you were quite concerned over his health.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doris &Hubby Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: Just read the book


> Dear Mr. Phil,
>
> I don;t debate that God can speak thru dreams, children,and dreams of 
> childrean, but I am not going to read the book either nor "The Shack"
>
> I share a lot of convictions with Ms. Angel tho I am not Catholic nor 
> plan to convert. I have  a Muslim friend who I care about and I believe A 
> Christian can pray with a Muslim but I do not expect to become Muslim, 
> either.
>
> luv  y'all.
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
> At 04:10 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>>Angel,
>>
>>After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used in the 
>>book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are superior to 
>>everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and theology.  But you aren't 
>>going to do that, are you?  You are going to keep running down everyone 
>>else who has read it as being gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so 
>>called Bible believers.  I still say you are just simply afraid to read it 
>>because you would rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture 
>>itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's 
>>astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>
>>
>>>I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just can't 
>>>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to believe 
>>>in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the Saints are 
>>>interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they constantly are 
>>>with us on earth watching over us with our personal angels.  They being 
>>>the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul spoke, and they so easily 
>>>accept something they read from a book shelf.  Almost as if it were 
>>>gospel itself?  It seems to me, protestants will bee almost willing to 
>>>believe anything from almost anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are 
>>>almost as bad as those who believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When 
>>>Saint Paul didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think 
>>>he would have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If he 
>>>saw him.  Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he 
>>>played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven.  Why should I believe 
>>>any modern recounts of heavenly experiences.  When, in order for A Saint 
>>>to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as having been done by 
>>>that Saint.  It is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in 
>>>whom I put my trust concerning heavenly accounts.  I ask, what is the 
>>>litmus test to which you all have put this recounting from this young man 
>>>whom no one on the list knows personally? Now I am not saying the 
>>>experiences themselves aren't real experiences.  I am just saying why I 
>>>don't believe they should be taken at face value. Only God knows whether 
>>>those experiences weren't hallucinations.  My late husband suffered from 
>>>a load of those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what 
>>>they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little boy's 
>>>astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>>>>what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>compassion.
>>>>Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>>but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to 
>>>>encourage us.
>>>>I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>>>>life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>>people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>>>>We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>>>>Blessings,
>>>>Donna
>>>>On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this 
>>>>>miraculous
>>>>>experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book 
>>>>>and
>>>>>I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>>haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by 
>>>>>Scripture
>>>>>from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some of your 
>>>>>most
>>>>>closely held beliefs?
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil. 

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