Dear Mr. Phil,

I don;t debate that God can speak thru dreams, children,and dreams of 
childrean, but I am not going to read the book either nor "The Shack"

I share a lot of convictions with Ms. Angel tho I am not Catholic 
nor  plan to convert. I have  a Muslim friend who I care about and I 
believe A Christian can pray with a Muslim but I do not expect to 
become Muslim, either.

luv  y'all.

Doris




At 04:10 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>Angel,
>
>After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used 
>in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs are 
>superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and 
>theology.  But you aren't going to do that, are you?  You are going 
>to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being 
>gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible believers.  I 
>still say you are just simply afraid to read it because you would 
>rather believe in a belief system than in Scripture itself even when 
>Scripture is clearly experienced by a Bible believer.
>
>Phil.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little 
>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>
>
>>I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just can't 
>>understand for the life of me why protestants find it so hard to 
>>believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming the 
>>Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that they 
>>constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our personal 
>>angels.  They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint Paul 
>>spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a book 
>>shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel itself?  It seems to me, 
>>protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from almost 
>>anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are almost as bad as those 
>>who believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When Saint Paul didn't 
>>even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he would 
>>have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If he saw 
>>him.  Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the part he 
>>played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven.  Why should I 
>>believe any modern recounts of heavenly experiences.  When, in 
>>order for A Saint to be canonized, two miracles must be verified as 
>>having been done by that Saint.  It is those recounting from such 
>>Saints as Paul and John in whom I put my trust concerning heavenly 
>>accounts.  I ask, what is the litmus test to which you all have put 
>>this recounting from this young man whom no one on the list knows 
>>personally? Now I am not saying the experiences themselves aren't 
>>real experiences.  I am just saying why I don't believe they should 
>>be taken at face value. Only God knows whether those experiences 
>>weren't hallucinations.  My late husband suffered from a load of 
>>those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what 
>>they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little 
>>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>>>what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>compassion.
>>>Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to 
>>>encourage us.
>>>I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>>>life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>>>We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>>>Blessings,
>>>Donna
>>>On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>>experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book and
>>>>I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>>from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some 
>>>>of your most
>>>>closely held beliefs?
>>>>
>>>>Phil.