Dear Angel,

Though you disagree with most of us here, that is not going to stop 
us from talking about this subject. <smile>


Thanks much.

Many Blessings,

Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.


At 06:28 PM 7/24/2014, you wrote:
>I will not read the book.  For the reasons I previously 
>stated.  Many in this world have different beliefs than do I about 
>all sorts of things from . John Calvin, to Charles Taze Russell, to 
>Joseph Smith.  All claiming to base their beliefs on scriptural 
>accuracy.  Each of whom have flawed reasoning, in my opinion.  Of 
>course you are free, as you have done, to disagree with me on 
>everything.  That is your right.  About which I wouldn't gainsay 
>you. I dare say, I need not have to know about the experiences of 
>others regarding either heaven or hell.  I
>Shall be having my own experiences in good time.  So why should I 
>care to read about those of others?  When such are so personal, and 
>can be so easily contrived by others to make a dollar or 
>million.    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" 
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:10 PM
>Subject: Just read the book
>
>
>>Angel,
>>
>>After you've read the book, and all the confirming Scriptures used 
>>in the book to verify the miracle, then tell us how your beliefs 
>>are superior to everyone else's believing in Bible doctrine and 
>>theology.  But you aren't going to do that, are you?  You are going 
>>to keep running down everyone else who has read it as being 
>>gullible, easily fooled and misguided, so called Bible 
>>believers.  I still say you are just simply afraid to read it 
>>because you would rather believe in a belief system than in 
>>Scripture itself even when Scripture is clearly experienced by a 
>>Bible believer.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Angel" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:51 AM
>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little 
>>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>
>>
>>>I am not angry,,  I apologize if it seems that I am,.  I just 
>>>can't understand for the life of me why protestants find it so 
>>>hard to believe in some Catholic teachings, such as those claiming 
>>>the Saints are interceding for us constantly in heaven, and that 
>>>they constantly are with us on earth watching over us with our 
>>>personal angels.  They being the cloud of witnesses of which Saint 
>>>Paul spoke, and they so easily accept something they read from a 
>>>book shelf.  Almost as if it were gospel itself?  It seems to me, 
>>>protestants will bee almost willing to believe anything from 
>>>almost anyone who claims it to be true.  Some are almost as bad as 
>>>those who believe the shroud of Turin is real.  When Saint Paul 
>>>didn't even recount what he saw in heaven, and don't you think he 
>>>would have at least raved about how he saw Saint Steven there.  If 
>>>he saw him. Because, we know he suffered from the guilt over the 
>>>part he played in his martyrdom, if he saw him in heaven.  Why 
>>>should I believe any modern recounts of heavenly 
>>>experiences.  When, in order for A Saint to be canonized, two 
>>>miracles must be verified as having been done by that Saint.  It 
>>>is those recounting from such Saints as Paul and John in whom I 
>>>put my trust concerning heavenly accounts.  I ask, what is the 
>>>litmus test to which you all have put this recounting from this 
>>>young man whom no one on the list knows personally? Now I am not 
>>>saying the experiences themselves aren't real experiences.  I am 
>>>just saying why I don't believe they should be taken at face 
>>>value. Only God knows whether those experiences weren't 
>>>hallucinations.  My late husband suffered from a load of 
>>>those.  Each of which seemed perfectly real to him. I know what 
>>>they were too, because he spoke each he saw.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 5:56 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Angel, Please first read Heaven is for real: a little 
>>>boy's astounding story of his trip to heaven and back.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>I haven't read the book yet, but I intend too.  My first  reaction to
>>>>what I'm reading is that this family needs our prayers, and
>>>>compassion.
>>>>Any book that talks  about miracles should be weighed against scripture,
>>>>but it seems like what happened to this little one is meant  to 
>>>>encourage us.
>>>>I haven't  walked on water, or raised the dead,  but God has saved my
>>>>life more than once, and the testimonies from these events have lead
>>>>people to salvation,  which is what really matters.
>>>>We'll know the book by it's fruit.  Angel, I'm  sorry you seem so angry.
>>>>Blessings,
>>>>Donna
>>>>On 7/23/14, Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>Then tell us everything that is theologically wrong with this miraculous
>>>>>experience.  I get the feeling you don't want to read this little book and
>>>>>I'm wondering why.  Why do you want to argue what you believe when you
>>>>>haven't read this book of a little boy's testimony confirmed by Scripture
>>>>>from beginning to end.  Are you worried it might challenge some 
>>>>>of your most
>>>>>closely held beliefs?
>>>>>
>>>>>Phil.
>>
>>Thanks much.
>>
>>Many Blessings,
>>
>>Pat Ferguson
>>"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.