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"John Vernaleken`" <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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My delete key is being used too much. Can we get back to Ham topics?

John  KC2QJB



-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Jim Shaffer
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 6:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The need for list moderation and control

> Being a Libertarian does not mean that you throw all of your manners 
> and respect for other peoples rights away.

Huh? When did I ever do that?  I don't see any correlation between not
wanting a moderated list and throwing away respect for individuals.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Ringwald
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 4:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: The need for list moderation and control

Jim Shaffer KE5AL wrote regarding moderating an email list:





I've only seen one post on this list that I thought some folks might = think

needed moderating, and that doesn't constitute a need for list = moderation
in

my opinion.  If someone is sending offensive posts, don't read that =
person's

posts!  It's as simple as that. =20





You do not know if the post is offensive unless you read it.=20





I don't want my posts to the list delayed

until a moderator can look at them, just because some folks can't handle =
bad

language or flames.





The posts do not have to be held up. When someone is using bad language = or
harassing someone else, the list moderator can just tell em to knock = it
off. Either the guilty party knocks it off, or gets put on moderate = until
he/she can conduct him or herself like a responsible adult.=20



I moderate an email list with 640 members from all over the world. By =
moderate, I do not mean I have to OK every post. I mean, all posts are =
automatically posted to the List as they are on this List. If someone = gets
out of hand, I tell em to stop. If they don=E2=80=99t, I put them = on
moderate until they can act civilized and treat other list members = with
respect.=20



We are all ham radio operators. We are all in the hobby because we enjoy =
the hobby. We are a brotherhood. We don=E2=80=99t need to be publically =
insulting and harassing other ham radio operators.=20



What you want to do privately is your business. But when it is public, =
freedom stops where it impinges on other peoples freedom. This goes for =
freedom of expression or any other kind of freedom.=20





One thing that's really starting to bug me about this country is that we

seem to think that when something goes wrong, we need to pass a law or =
turn

the problem over to some sort of government intervention.  I guess = that's

why I've become a Libertarian.



--

Jim, KE5AL







Being a Libertarian does not mean that you throw all of your manners and =
respect for other people=E2=80=99s rights away.=20



-Bob Ringwald K6YBV





-----Original Message-----

From: Michael Ryan

Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:51 PM

To:

[log in to unmask]

Subject: The need for list moderation and control

Hi all:=3D20

I just read Howard's posting regarding someone to grow up, suck it up = =3D

and be thankful you got a radio and antennas and such.=3D20

I haven't been really following the thread because, quite frankly, I =3D

wasn't interested in the constant postings regarding the iPhone and =3D

reader, or accessible transceivers and the like. Simply I really didn't =
=3D

have anything to add on the subject of the US tower and so on.=3D20

I think though its time that the list owner get it together and start = =3D

moderating this list or turn it over to an individual or group who can. =
=3D

We don't need people offending each other on this list and we also don't =
=3D

need the constant non ham radio related subject which seems to be =3D

drowning the radio subject of this list. I posted some help to the Yahoo =
=3D

FT-102 user group when I 1ST got my rig and an individual in Hungry, =3D

who's well known in DX circles bashed the Hell out of me because I was = =3D

explaining to another fellow lister my vision loss and the tools I had = =3D

at my disposal to use the 102 and what I could see and what I couldn't. =
=3D

Well this well known DXer more or less proclaimed that I was someone, A =
=3D

using my blindness as a crutch and B, I was someone who had just walked =
=3D

into a lawn mowing store looking to buy the shoes off the salesmen's =3D

feet because they wouldn't sell me shoes. LOL=3D20

That idiot was band from the list pronto. So I think its high time that =
=3D

someone or someones, start doing the same and get control of this list. =
=3D

I'm not saying that all non HR related activity be band because =3D

technology and situations can be used as guide lines to different =3D

aspects in our lives but it does need to be lidded somewhat.=3D20

Just my thoughts, hope to catch some of you on the air this =
weekend.=3D20

73:=3D20

Mike VO1AX=3D20 

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