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Robert Ringwald <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:49:57 -0700
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    Well . . . . This is certainly the spirit of ham radio.

-Bob Ringwald K6YBV



From: Michael Thurman 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 1:41 PM
To: [log in to unmask] 
Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader

well You do not have a mac dumbs   so have no right to comment. More and =
More of us do, and the fact that this trashed listserv can not handle it =
is beyond disgusting.There is no excuse for not being able to handle any =
modern text E mails.  I always love to hear what Buddy is talking about, =
and since you obviously do not care because you are shoved p micros =
haft=92s backside  just stay out of it.
No wonder we can=92t get our rights protected as blind people or as =
amateur operators with backward bullshit like that.
Michael Thurman
[log in to unmask]



On Sep 27, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Colin McDonald <[log in to unmask]> =
wrote:

> feel free to leave any time, I'm sure it'll be no imposition upon me.
>=20
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Michael Thurman" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:56 PM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>=20
>> oh my god   that message was completely unreadable. this its is =
getting =3D
>> worse I think for readability.   When are we just going to go =
somewhere =3D
>> else and away rom this deprecated piece of shit listserv?
>> I ha better results and no trash back int he 90s on yahoo and it =
always =3D
>> worked.
>>=20
>> Michael Thurman
>> [log in to unmask]
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Buddy Brannan <[log in to unmask]> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>> People seem to love the Stand Scan, =3D
>> but=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DA6well=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3DA6it=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D9=
9s =3D3D
>>> made out of cardboard. Can=3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D99t wanna like =
that.=3D3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D3DE2=3D3D80=3D3D94=3D3D20
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: 814-860-3194=3D3D20
>>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>> =3D20
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Colin McDonald =
<[log in to unmask]> =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> wrote:
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>> hey steve, just so as to not reinvent the wheel, and I know i can =
=3D3D
>>> google it,=3D3D20
>>>> what is this scan stand you speak of?
>>>> The concept did cross my mind when this thread first popped up but =
I =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> didn't=3D3D20
>>>> explore it further until you mentioned it just now.
>>>> A brief explanation and perhaps a place to purchase such a =3D
>> contraption =3D3D
>>> would=3D3D20
>>>> be helpful methinks.
>>>> I was actually thinking of making my own, but again, reference the =
=3D3D
>>> wheel=3D3D20
>>>> thing hi hi.
>>>> 73
>>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:32 PM
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: Re: OT Re: The IPhone and the KNFB Reader
>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> First, I think the price is a bit on the extravagant side for an =3D=

>> app.
>>>>> Having said that, since it is a family sharable app I will be =
buying =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> it.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> It will work on anything from an iPhone 4S up, but it works better =
=3D
>> on =3D3D
>>> the=3D3D20
>>>>> 5S
>>>>> and the 6'es.  The 6S even though it has physical stabilization =
does =3D
>> =3D3D
>>> not
>>>>> give any real advantage over the 6 as far as how the KNFB Reader =
=3D3D
>>> performs.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Now, I have had good luck using my iPhone with other print =3D3D
>>> recognition
>>>>> software along with a scanstand.  Lighting is quite important for
>>>>> recognition, but with a scanstand, it is possible to get =3D
>> comparable=3D3D20=3D3D
>>> =3D20
>>>>> results
>>>>> to a flatbed scanner; this is on software that is quite =
inexpensive.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Now, paying twenty times more for the KNFB Reader will allow me to =
=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> scan=3D3D20
>>>>> with
>>>>> more forgiveness as far as lighting and allow me to get the =3D3D
>>> field-of-view
>>>>> reports and to insure I have the phone level.  That is the biggest =
=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> factor=3D3D20
>>>>> I
>>>>> think that blind people experience when using a hand scanner is =
=3D3D
>>> making=3D3D20
>>>>> sure
>>>>> they don't have the document skewed; good spatial perception is =
=3D3D
>>> critical=3D3D20
>>>>> to
>>>>> achieving qualitative results.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> If you have an iPhone, use the split-tap method on the left of the =
=3D3D=3D
>>=20
>>> screen=3D3D20
>>>>> to
>>>>> take a picture and on the right side of the screen for the =3D3D
>>> field-of-view
>>>>> report.  Split tapping isn't as likely to jostle the phone as=3D3D20=

>>>>> double-tapping
>>>>> would.
>>>>> =3D3D20
>>>>> Steve, K8SP
>>>>> Lansing, Pure Michigan=3D3D20=20

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