Well at that point i would have got the f.c.c involved.
No they shouldn't ask for 9 months either.
That's just nuts.
And also they can't say they won't come anymore.
You can handle it how ever you want but i know i wouldn't be backing down.
I have no small eutillity either but i still got it done.
Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw
On 3/5/2014 8:21 PM, Phil Scovell wrote:
> Matt,
>
> The utility company in Denver wants at least 9 months of you logging dates
> and times and directions before they claim they will even come out to hunt.
> I had a friend that had them coming out so often, they said they wouldn't
> come any more.  He finally traced it down himself, using a radio , and two
> blocks from his 132 foot tower, he found it coming from a particular house.
> Then the utility company came out with their direction finding gear and my
> friend, Bob, walked them directly to the house.  It turned out to be a leaky
> old breaker box arking and creating the bulk of his noise.  The utility
> company said they could do nothing because it was residence and therefore
> private property.  They would not even talk to the owner so Bob did and even
> offered to assist the owner in repairing it with new breakers, for starters,
> but the old guy refused.
>
> Phil.
> K0NX
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Arthur" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 5:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Line Noise Elimination
>
>
>> Hi Phil,
>> Your going to have to track it down yourself and take them to it.
>> They have to work with you.
>> That is f.c.c regulations.
>> The more hell you raze with them the more you will get done.
>> You just have to deside your not going to back down.
>> I had a very hard run with Aliant Energy over power line noise in the
>> late 90's when i mooved to Ellendale, Mn.
>> They  just didn't want to do anything but i just stayed on them until
>> they  finally had to do it.
>> It took several years but it has payed off.
>> It would take to big of an email to tell the hole story.
>> So get on them you     deserve  to be able enjoy ham radio.
>> Who knows it could become very important to help with some emergency
>> some time to.
>> Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw
>> On 3/5/2014 5:23 PM, Phil Scovell wrote:
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> Denver has a very poor record of the elimination of line noise.  The
>>> first
>>> thing they tell you is that if it turns out to be someone else, even from
>>> a
>>> store such as a gas station, or personal residence, they can't do
>>> anything
>>> about it.  I have a steady S9, and some times a steady S9 plus 10 DB
>>> noise,
>>> on 75 meters.  All other bands are normal 0 to 4 DB but if the wind is
>>> blowing, it doubles so you know it is the utility company but they are
>>> very
>>> hard to work with.  For years, they even had a ham working for them who
>>> came
>>> out with all his special radios and directional antennas.  I had met him
>>> years earlier and he was in his retirement years so he didn't care if a
>>> fellow ham had noise or not.  He couldn't find any noise even when I
>>> showed
>>> him my findings from having directional beams I could rotate and give him
>>> an
>>> idea which direction to start with.  Years ago, in 78 and 79, I lived in
>>> a
>>> small town of 80 people in western Colorado.  I lived in a new
>>> subdivision
>>> they were building due to the 5 coal mines that were running full blast
>>> around the clock.  They put every wire, including phone cables, under
>>> ground.  I have a 40 foot telescoping mast and had my 80 meter inverted
>>> vee
>>> at the top and my 40 meter inverted Vee at 30 feet.  They were broadside
>>> to
>>> the east.  If you looked out my front window, there was nothing in the
>>> way
>>> for 20 miles to the nearest mountains.  The back yard was flat for miles
>>> and
>>> miles.  I had absolutely zero noise on all bands.  I worked 160 countries
>>> on
>>> 40, and over 100 on 80, in 18 months.  When I moved back to Denver, I
>>> lived
>>> on a highway heading up to the mountains that crossed the width of
>>> Denver.
>>> The street was called 6th Avenue.  I had noise but not enough to bother
>>> me.
>>> I worked another 38 countries in 4 years at that house and a few more on
>>> 40.
>>> Now I live on a busy street that crosses Denver north and south and the
>>> noise is the worst I've ever had since I've been a ham.  If I took my 18
>>> year old grandson with me outdoors with a portable A M radio, I bet we
>>> could
>>> find the noise quicker than the city would.  A friend in western Colorado
>>> finally called the FCC because he had 20 over S9 line noise in a small
>>> town
>>> and the rural electric company wouldn't even try to fix it.  The rural
>>> power
>>> company then decided they best be coming out to fix his noise problems.
>>> Now
>>> he has zero line noise on 80.  I've lived in this house 31 years and the
>>> noise is worse than it has ever been in this neighborhood.
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>> K0NX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Matt Arthur" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: 12 meter band condision Monday from Colorado
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>> Yes 12 meters has been very good.
>>>> I hope you can get rid of the power line nois.
>>>> I have done alot of power line nois tracking over the years.
>>>> I just do not put up with it.
>>>> enjoy 12 meters.
>>>> Thanks 73 Matt ka0pqw
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:21 PM
>>>> Subject: 12 meter band condision Monday from Colorado
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I often tune the bands with the CW beacons to get a feel for the band
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> tuning.  Today, on 12 meters, I heard OH, Finland, ZS6, South Africa,
>>>>> OA
>>>>> Perru  South America, and KH6 Hawaii.  I heard some weak beacons also
>>>>> but
>>>>> they were under my S3 line noise today.  That's quite an area to be
>>>>> open
>>>>> at
>>>>> noon mountain standard time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil.
>>>>> K0NX